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TSS pattern pics #604844
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Didn't want to hijack any of the other threads. Can ya'll post some pics of any patterns ya'll have out past 50 yards. Getting ready to order some from Hawglips, but can't decide what size"s" to go with. I'm not worried about downrange energy from the 9's, just wondering how the pattern will hold together. Especially from 50-70 yards. I love the idea of that many pellets in a 3in 12ga.Thanks

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606187
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Here's what a 2 oz load of 9x8s looks like (10" circle) out of my Mossburg 500 and a XFull sporting clays choke:

40 yds



50 yds


60 yds


70 yds


80 yds

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606191
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Very nice!


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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606195
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Do the 5s and 6s pattern as good?


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: N2TRKYS] #606197
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Do the 5s and 6s pattern as good?


Yes. All of it patterns good. But since 5s and 6s are too big for turkeys I haven't messed with them much and don't have pictures. Number 1s and BBs will all be in a 2 foot circle at 40 yds with a factory flush mount full choke.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606200
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I'm shooting Nitro 4x5x7s. I think the 7s are too small. Don't have any data on it, really, just based on turkeys that I've killed. Thinking about getting away from duplexes, but will shoot what shoots best.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606204
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After you hold a couple ounces of TSS in your hand, you will understand why 8's and 9's fly straight and hit like a hammer at long ranges. The differences in weight is night and day.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606232
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Are they available in factory loads?


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606240
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Benelli SBE2 Rhino Choke- 60 yd pattern



Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606249
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Good lawd. I gotta get me some of that shot.


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: N2TRKYS] #606265
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Are they available in factory loads?


No. It has to be hand loaded, but it is very simple and doesn't require reloading equipment. Set of scales and a little cheap drill press and you'll be ready.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: BrentM] #606269
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Originally Posted By: BrentM

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Are they available in factory loads?


No. It has to be hand loaded, but it is very simple and doesn't require reloading equipment. Set of scales and a little cheap drill press and you'll be ready.

Could you elaborate with pics how this process goes and the tools needed in a separate thread please. I am very interested in loading some.


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606275
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There's really not much to elaborate on.............Hawglips has already done all the research and come up with loads that have been tested at the lab and are safe. If you buy some shot from him he will give you a recipe for whatever you want to shoot.
You use primed hulls and just pour in the powder and then put in the wad, shot and buffer and whatever spacers are necessary to fill the hull properly. . Then you put an overshot card on top of it and roll crimp the end of it.
There are lots of roll crimping videos on YouTube.

The only tools you need are a set of digital scales, a roll crimping tool and a little dowel of some type to pack the ingredients down in the hull.

Last edited by BrentM; 06/10/13 05:57 AM.
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606278
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Take the hull and weigh out the powder, put the powder in then you will put the wad in. Then weigh out the shot and put it in the wad. 437.5 grains = 1 ounce so do the math.

After the shot you weigh out the buffer, I then use a small jitter bug massager, I take the shell with the buffer piled up on top and touch it down on the massager when its running and the buffer will slowly migrate down between the shot. Anything that vibrates will work, some people use a razor, some just tap it on the table till it settles. You do it till the shot starts showing.

After that you put the overshot card on top and roll crimp.

I may have over looked something but this should be most of everything. You may come up with some more questions but this should help get the general idea of everything.

The load will vary if you should use felt,cork spacers, and mylar but this is pretty much it.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606279
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Tools

Scale
Roll crimp bit for shell needed.
Components for the load you intend to use.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606301
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Hawglips how do i get in touch with you about some shot?


Get close, call soft
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606322
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cool looks pretty easy. i thought you had to have a bunch of expensive reloading equipment.


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606330
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You can get about everything you need at this two places, except shot. I would recommend to get your powder locally if you can find it.

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/

http://www.precisionreloading.com/


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606334
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I use this scale.
27.99


And this crimp tool.

27.99

Powder, hulls,wads, fillers, buffer, mylar, and overshot cards.
Your shot is where the money is.

I also use a few little things I had around the house, small measuring spoons for dipping the shot out, one of those little vibrating massagers to vibrate the buffer down. I think I did buy a little powder scoop for the dipping it out of the container.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606347
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nothin to loadin em. i have only shot one...hate to waste the tss without a shot trap

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: Watchemflop] #606367
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Originally Posted By: Watchemflop
Hawglips how do i get in touch with you about some shot?


Just PM me or send email to hganc@aol.com. I try to keep some either on hand or on the way.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606385
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Hals top notch to deal with.


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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: trkymn6f0] #606421
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Originally Posted By: trkymn6f0




nothin to loadin em. i have only shot one...hate to waste the tss without a shot trap


Dang, that is some expensive baby formula!


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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606475
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This is Hal's 1 5/8 oz 20 ga load at 50 yards. One ounce 9's and 5/8 ounce 8's. I think I could have moved it around a bit and come up with a few more hits but I just drew a 10" circle around the center of my target.


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just shot my benelli sbe 2

9x8-241 in 10", straight 9 2oz-266 in 10", 9x8-199 in 10", straight 8-221 in 10"...all lasered 50 yards

shot into a solid piece of 3/8" plywood. i had previously shot this same sheet with nitro 4x5x7H 3.5" shells at 50 yards. The heavyshot was stuck to the surface of the plywood. The tss did not pass thru but it did all go so deep that i couldnt see it. Bad stuff for sure. Also I ran a bore snake thru the barrel twice between shots

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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606588
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Those are good counts for 50 in my opinion.


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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #606741
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I don't want to hijack this thread but I would like to kwow what wad y'all use in these TSS loads. Thanks


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Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: marshmud991] #606756
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The tps is the wad used in most loads as far as I know

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benelli sbe 2 9x8 2oz 3" 12g. lasered 50 yds. 20" ring got cut off or numbers would be better

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #607539
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That's an awesome 50 yd pattern.

Re: TSS pattern pics [Re: T-town] #607688
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were you aiming at the red dots? Tight patterns.

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