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Any intetrest? #637083 07/31/13 03:37 AM 07/31/13 03:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson R ridgestalker OP Booner
ridgestalker OP Booner R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson	I remember last year Alabama Whitetail records were going to make a drive to measure and record big deer from each county. I think the only thing I ever saw for Jackson etc was a scorer a day or so at Gander mtn with not much interest.What if we had a meet and greet with a scorer or two there and get some deer entered. I would enjoy looking at some big old local bucks and putting faces with some names.Any thoughts? Last edited by ridgestalker; 07/31/13 04:19 AM. "The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637116 07/31/13 04:10 AM 07/31/13 04:10 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,112 Hampton Cove foldemup Booner
foldemup Booner Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,112 Hampton Cove	None of my deer are gonna make any "records", but I would like to have them officially measured, just so I can't lie about their size. If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637121 07/31/13 04:14 AM 07/31/13 04:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson R ridgestalker OP Booner
ridgestalker OP Booner R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson	I think they have to be 130 or maybe 140 to get in that. "The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637136 07/31/13 04:38 AM 07/31/13 04:38 AM
O outdoorobsession Unregistered
outdoorobsession Unregistered O	Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books. I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637159 07/31/13 04:58 AM 07/31/13 04:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co. N N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns
N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co.	115 for State with bow. I've got one in the book with a bow. I've got a 12 point that would probably make book with a bow, but haven't entered it, yet. If it was relatively close, I'd be interested. Last edited by N2TRKYS; 07/31/13 05:02 AM. 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ] #637183 07/31/13 05:21 AM 07/31/13 05:21 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,539 Birmingham T truedouble 14 point
truedouble 14 point T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,539 Birmingham	Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books. I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought. you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637186 07/31/13 05:23 AM 07/31/13 05:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama demp17 10 point
demp17 10 point Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama	Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. We are not perfect, only forgiven!!!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637188 07/31/13 05:25 AM 07/31/13 05:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	The records the DCNR are doing I think is the one you're talkin' about. Matt Brock is an offical scorer. May be others closer, but I'm unsure. Bucks must NET 140" typ, don't sound like much , but net 140 is a pretty tall order. The guys at Harbin Automotive in Scottsboro were kicking around the idea of a scoring session, haven't heard anything on it in a while though. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: demp17] #637192 07/31/13 05:29 AM 07/31/13 05:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: demp17 Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: truedouble] #637200 07/31/13 05:31 AM 07/31/13 05:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: truedouble Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books. I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought. you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL Yep, the locals know anyway. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637201 07/31/13 05:31 AM 07/31/13 05:31 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co. N N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns
N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co.	Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: demp17 Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. The State book doesn't count deductions. 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: N2TRKYS] #637206 07/31/13 05:36 AM 07/31/13 05:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: demp17 Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. The State book doesn't count deductions. The new record system State DCNR just started does. The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637209 07/31/13 05:42 AM 07/31/13 05:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson R ridgestalker OP Booner
ridgestalker OP Booner R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson	Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: demp17 Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. The State book doesn't count deductions. The new record system State DCNR just started does. The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only. The the one DCNR was trying to put together. "The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637211 07/31/13 05:44 AM 07/31/13 05:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 16,156 Alabaster Bowhunter84 Old Mossy Horns
Bowhunter84 Old Mossy Horns Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 16,156 Alabaster	What does a deer have to gross in order to make the Alabama whitetail records? "Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once" BC

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637225 07/31/13 05:50 AM 07/31/13 05:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co. N N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns
N2TRKYS Old Mossy Horns N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,049 Tuscaloosa Co.	Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: demp17 Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. The State book doesn't count deductions. The new record system State DCNR just started does. The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only. Did they start their own system or adopt P&Y and B&C? 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: Bowhunter84] #637246 07/31/13 06:16 AM 07/31/13 06:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,539 Birmingham T truedouble 14 point
truedouble 14 point T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,539 Birmingham	Originally Posted By: Bowhunter84 What does a deer have to gross in order to make the Alabama whitetail records? I think 140, typical

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: N2TRKYS] #637261 07/31/13 06:42 AM 07/31/13 06:42 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS Originally Posted By: 2Dogs [quote=demp17]Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries. [/quot There you go again. NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks. The State book doesn't count deductions. The new record system State DCNR just started does. The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only. Did they start their own system or adopt P&Y and B&C? If you're talking the new State DCNR records, pretty sure it's P&Y/B&C, 140" net typ. for a gun kill. The old Alabama Whitetail Record book that's been around for years is 150" gross for gun kills. Two totaly different things. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637458 07/31/13 10:29 AM 07/31/13 10:29 AM
M Matt Brock Unregistered
Matt Brock Unregistered M	We had a scoring session in Tanner a couple of weeks with hardly any participation. If you guys can gain enough interest and justify a couple of us spending a few hours somewhere scoring deer we can make it happen. Entry requirements are NET 140 typical, 165 non-typical according to B&C scoring system. Like 2Dogs said NET 140 is a tall order, but there are dozens of them hanging on walls in north AL that have never been scored. RAWD is not to be confused with Dennis Campbell's system North American White-tailed Records, which was the previous AL book. RAWD entry requirements are higher, and coordinated through AL WFF Division.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637490 07/31/13 11:11 AM 07/31/13 11:11 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama demp17 10 point
demp17 10 point Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama	2Dogs collection could keep a couple folks busy for at least 1/2 a day! We are not perfect, only forgiven!!!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637506 07/31/13 11:37 AM 07/31/13 11:37 AM
M Matt Brock Unregistered
Matt Brock Unregistered M	I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ] #637542 07/31/13 12:09 PM 07/31/13 12:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: Matt Brock I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all! You pencil whipped those in the minus column. Pretty humbling to have 2 gross 160's and they won't net 140". I've got a couple smaller, "prettier" ones that would be strong prospects to net 140 . Don't seem right, nets are for fishin'. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637580 07/31/13 12:36 PM 07/31/13 12:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama demp17 10 point
demp17 10 point Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,911 North Bama	Wow I thought the big 160 you killed a few years ago would net 140 all day. I wish there would be enough interest for MB to come I bet there are more net 140 an 150s than most think. We are not perfect, only forgiven!!!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637585 07/31/13 12:39 PM 07/31/13 12:39 PM
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Matt Brock Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: Matt Brock I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all! You pencil whipped those in the minus column. Pretty humbling to have 2 gross 160's and they won't net 140". I've got a couple smaller, "prettier" ones that would be strong prospects to net 140 . Don't seem right, nets are for fishin'. Hey, remember I have quite a few on my own wall that were pencil-whipped to death. I killed a gross 172" that nets 131" typical. That's why I took the non-typical score.... You need to let me have a try at those typicals.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637590 07/31/13 12:41 PM 07/31/13 12:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 36,981 alabama BhamFred Freak of Nature
BhamFred Freak of Nature Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 36,981 alabama	I'd let Matt scope any buck I have I wouldn't let AWR score my ass...... I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted..... proud Cracker-Americaan muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: BhamFred] #637604 07/31/13 12:56 PM 07/31/13 12:56 PM
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msudog 6 point Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 807 NE Madison county Alabama	Originally Posted By: BhamFred I wouldn't let AWR score my ass...... that's funny!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637732 07/31/13 02:50 PM 07/31/13 02:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson R ridgestalker OP Booner
ridgestalker OP Booner R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,180 North Jackson	I'd be good for 3 I bet we could gather up at least a dozen. "The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637797 07/31/13 03:28 PM 07/31/13 03:28 PM
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outdoorobsession Unregistered O	Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: truedouble Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books. I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought. you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL Yep, the locals know anyway. They dont actually or I WOULD have a problem! we sneak them out and mums the word. Noone in the area other then the few of us that hunt together know. We are VERY secretive about our deer...and protective. At the processors and in town EVERYONE thinks I kill my big bucks in Cherokee...cause thats what I tell them. I have tons of people ask me where in Cherokee I hunt. By the way..Ive NEVER even been to Cherokee. To all you from Cherokee...sorry for all the poaching trespassers Ive sent your way!

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ] #637811 07/31/13 03:35 PM 07/31/13 03:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove 2Dogs Freak of Nature
2Dogs Freak of Nature Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 37,385 Boxes Cove	Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession Originally Posted By: 2Dogs Originally Posted By: truedouble Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books. I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought. you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL Yep, the locals know anyway. They dont actually or I WOULD have a problem! we sneak them out and mums the word. Noone in the area other then the few of us that hunt together know. We are VERY secretive about our deer...and protective. At the processors and in town EVERYONE thinks I kill my big bucks in Cherokee...cause thats what I tell them. I have tons of people ask me where in Cherokee I hunt. By the way..Ive NEVER even been to Cherokee. To all you from Cherokee...sorry for all the poaching trespassers Ive sent your way! I'll bet some of the locals knew, if they didn't they do now. "Why do you ask"? Always vote the slowest path to socialism.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #638288 08/01/13 08:01 AM 08/01/13 08:01 AM
O outdoorobsession Unregistered
outdoorobsession Unregistered O	If they do they dont come around . My land doesnt look like much from the road anyway. I keep it real thick along the road and just have 2 trails with gates...one you really cant even see. Once you get in around 100-200 yards..then things start to change. It has the nice fields, road sysytem , persimmion trees,water chestnut and oaks, nice hardwoods along the creek and food plots. But from the road it looks just like an inpenetrable thicket. It is also a dead end road...and my tenats live there and let me know of suspicious vehicles. Plus..I put a trail cam that photos all vehicles coming down the road out. Really noone drives down it but the tenants..and they dont hunt.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ] #638589 08/01/13 01:30 PM 08/01/13 01:30 PM
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joshm28 14 point J Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL	Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession If they do they dont come around . My land doesnt look like much from the road anyway. I keep it real thick along the road and just have 2 trails with gates...one you really cant even see. Once you get in around 100-200 yards..then things start to change. It has the nice fields, road sysytem , persimmion trees,water chestnut and oaks, nice hardwoods along the creek and food plots. But from the road it looks just like an inpenetrable thicket. It is also a dead end road...and my tenats live there and let me know of suspicious vehicles. Plus..I put a trail cam that photos all vehicles coming down the road out. Really noone drives down it but the tenants..and they dont hunt. That is the way our new lease looks like. Has a substantial amount of road frontage, mile or so, and one way in.

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