Unfortunately, it will not become less intrusive, but more. I predict physical tags in the future, but I hope I'm wrong.

Exactly! They didn't take a pole of all hunters because they wouldn't have voted for it.

All they are going to learn is that people who don't want to put up with BS won't report harvest information anyway.

If you want people to comply with anything make it easy for them and reward them. They could have offered a $2 discount on a new license to fill out a previous years harvest report and I would be willing to bet the cost would have been less than their new BS system, which about 50% of hunters won't comply to anyway.

I talk to more hunters that like it than don't. There is a pretty decent amount on here that don't like it. The vast majority of people I ask in my clubs have no issue with it and I talk to hundreds of people...

In meetings I had with with the powers that be, I lobbied for physical tags. Of course I grew up hunting in TN and was used to it.

I've always thought the Tyvek non-tearable tags with a little adhesive would be easy. Probably costly, but easy.

I believe Ohio this season has gone to "tag with whatever you have" as long as the info is on the tag and it's on the deer. Paper, tape, duct tape, panties, corn shuck, whatever.

Fixed it for you.

If more people represented the opposite view you hold in the meetings then the process worked the way it should. I was not at all the meetings but I did talk to people that were at the meetings I was not at and a tagging system was supposedly heavily requested.

Okay, I'm done now. Y'all have fun discussing this ad nauseum.

This ^^^

When the will of the people requires it:



Laws are to be introduced as bills.



Those bills are to read in the house of origin. The doors of the legislature are to remain open.





The bill is then to be presented to an appropriate committee in the house of origin.



If approved in committee, the bill is to be read twice more in the house of origin.



Then, if approved by a vote of the house of origin, the bill goes to the other house.

The bill is then read in the second house and referred to the appropriate committee for consideration.

If approved in committee, the bill is then read twice more in the second house.

If approved on the third reading in the second house, the bill is engrossed.

Engrossed bills are sent to the governor for his approval.

If the governor signs the bill, it then becomes a law.

[For the complete procedure, see Article IV Legislative Department, Constitution of Alabama 1901]


The following two statutes went through that legislative process, and reflect the will of the majority. I did not make them up and try to force them on anyone:



Section 9-2-7
Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources - Powers and duties as to game, fish and seafood generally.

(a) The Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may enforce and administer all laws providing for the preservation, protection, propagation, and development of wild birds, wild fur-bearing animals, game fish, saltwater fish, shrimp, oysters and other shellfish, crustaceans and all other species of wildlife within the state or within the territorial jurisdiction of the state which have not been reduced to private ownership, except as otherwise provided.
(b) The commissioner is empowered to do all of the following:
… (7) To close the season of any species of game in any county or area when, upon a survey by the department, it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species and to reopen such closed season when it is deemed advisable.


Section 9-11-301
Fixing of boundaries; promulgation of special rules and regulations for management and protection of areas.

The Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources is authorized to fix such boundaries and promulgate such special rules and regulations for the management and protection of wildlife management areas as may be necessary or desirable. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, he is specifically authorized to set up for any wildlife management area special open and closed seasons on game animals, game birds and fish, to establish the amount of the fees to be collected for the privilege of hunting and fishing during any open season, to collect such fees and to authorize their collection by designated employees of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, to require the possession of a special permit when hunting or fishing within wildlife management areas, and to limit the number of permits to be issued during any open season to such members as he may direct.
(Acts 1939, No. 668, p. 1061, §2; Code 1940, T. 8, §110(2).)


Notice where the word "management" appears in the law. The law reflects the will of the people.

no they won't and it will in no way help .

you can not manage the herds just knowing how many is killed . untill they have a fair understanding of how many there are in a area counting the dead is worthless .

all of this bs and they'll know no more than before .

I would love to be in those meetings. Can you get me invited?

Sure I will:




Nothing there authorizes the DCNR to write its own laws or to mandate wildlife management on privately owned and leased lands.

Probably not, I don't carry that much weight I am just lucky enough to know some of these guys and in no way have any influence on what goes on or know anything concrete before it happens. It behooves me to stay in the know in my business though and that is exactly what I try and do. Some of these meetings were big functions and I hung around afterwards some were not. I make it a point to go to Montgomery every now and again to get a little face time.

Anyone has access to these guys. I am in no way special. They have posted numbers and emails and are very nice guys and will answer your questions to the best of their ability.

Fixed it for you.

Show us the pamphlet that contains the commissioner's rules together with the game and fish laws that he has published for general distribution as required by the law you just posted.

Can you say for sure that his rules have the force and effect of law until that happens?

i gotta ask ,,, have you been reading his post ????

simple ,,, dcnr is doing pretty much what it wants too and the law be damned .

it makes laws that it can't and then thumbs it nose at other law .

Hey All this crap started when every body started wanting to manage Alabama deer herds, First it was antler size. Now this. Just remember the majority on here pushed for the antler restrictions. Did you really think it would stop there, once it got started?

Its kinda like when I ask my wife how much something cost.

I say, "How much is it"?

She proceeds to explain three weeks worth of thought process, price comparisons, discussions with different people, various opinions.
And after about 30-45 minutes of this. I again ask, "How much is it?"
She gets huffy and says, "Weren't you listening to me?"

I say, "No honey, I was not listening to you, I just wanted to know how much it cost."

She gets mad, storms out, and the next day she tells me how much it cost while I am not even in the same room with her.

In the meantime, I check the bank account and see how much it cost.

Later, she reminds me how much it cost, at which point I say, "Yes honey I know, I heard you yesterday when I was in the other room"

She gets mad, knowing full well that I was not meant to hear her when she spoke to me while I was not even in the room with her.

well ,, it really started when some started thinking they owned the deer on the land they had .

maybe i'm just out on the wrong limb with 49'er . lol

First rule of recovery is admitting you have a problem