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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: leroycnbucks] #669222
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


It's to simple Yek for some folks to understand.


Hell I could care less if there was a damn deer left. Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if they all died out tonight and made room for more turkey and more turkey season. smile

BUT........



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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: CNC] #669230
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Which one of those graphs or reports tells us if the deer are over their carrying capacity and the habitat degrading as a result?


I'd say the one that shows the avg 4 year old buck weighing 59 pounds, but I am a GIS guy so there is no way I would know.


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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669236
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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669246
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Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


so in other words they will guess just like they have for the last umpteen years , right ??????


as i stated , it's useless .

Last edited by Frankie; 09/05/13 02:55 PM.
Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669251
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I understand the tagging system and why some people want it, and personally am not terribly put out by calling and reporting my kill. However, I ain't wild about the ability of a game warden to write a ticket for yet another thing,and was perfectly satisfied with going online and reporting what I killed voluntarily.

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: leroycnbucks] #669255
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


It's to simple Yek for some folks to understand.


for one to understand one most explain . nothing or no one has explian how this will make deer pop's management better

Last edited by Frankie; 09/05/13 03:02 PM.
Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: mike35549] #669263
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You can't fix stupid.


what part of what i have stated or ask is stupid ????

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: Frankie] #669274
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


so in other words they will guess just like they have for the last umpteen years , right ??????


as i stated , it's useless .



Let me help help you out.

Less guessing = more gooder! More gooder dear informacion is more gooder managemit praktices and more dear to shine the qbeam on.

Jest sayin. smile


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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: Frankie] #669280
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


It's to simple Yek for some folks to understand.


for one to understand one most explain . nothing or no one has explian how this will make deer pop's management better


Lets go back to the article I posted from Gunter......

He also said the information hunters supply will make hunting in the state better in the long term. "We really don't know, to the degree we'd like to know, what our deer population is," he said. "Particularly on a county by county basis or a region by region basis. The only way we can properly manage the deer or the turkeys is to know what kind of population we have. And the data that we'll get from game check will greatly increase the opportunities for us to do that."


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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669289
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With the State buying up land all over the State, it looks to me that that would be a good random sample. They could take those numbers that they are getting there with their head counts and get an approximate number using their blowup factor.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669292
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Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


so in other words they will guess just like they have for the last umpteen years , right ??????


as i stated , it's useless .



Let me help help you out.

Less guessing = more gooder! More gooder dear informacion is more gooder managemit praktices and more dear to shine the qbeam on.



i don't know what a Qbeam has to do with it ???

that's not explaining ,,, that's trying a attempt to be a smart ass . lol

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669300
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You have to start somewhere.... It takes history to create data.... We in Alabama have no history... In order to get history the State has established this program... It is and has worked in other States... and will work in this State when we get a report on the past data.. In order to get this data you have to have people/hunters tell us what is going on in the kill zone...

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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669301
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Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


It's to simple Yek for some folks to understand.


for one to understand one most explain . nothing or no one has explian how this will make deer pop's management better


Lets go back to the article I posted from Gunter......

He also said the information hunters supply will make hunting in the state better in the long term. "We really don't know, to the degree we'd like to know, what our deer population is," he said. "Particularly on a county by county basis or a region by region basis. The only way we can properly manage the deer or the turkeys is to know what kind of population we have. And the data that we'll get from game check will greatly increase the opportunities for us to do that."



and again counting dead deer will not tell you how many deer are there . even with 5 years of data the variables will be so great it still won't help

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: Frankie] #669302
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Alright... Go here and check out the reports on the left hand side. All kinds of good info there. I can also go back and view all of my harvests over the years.


so ,,, wheres is the living deer numbers ????


No problem, lets hire 4000 new state employees, purchase 2000 new choppers and count every single deer everyday so we will know precisely. Great idea but not possible. OR we could let the people who KNOW and STUDY the wildlife in our state daily do what they do. hell without them there wouldnt be any deer or turkey here to hunt to amount to anything. You use harvest data to determine the health and density of your herds, age range, where you need to regulate harvest, where you need to take more. Damn I am an IT guy not a biologist and I can understand that.


so in other words they will guess just like they have for the last umpteen years , right ??????


as i stated , it's useless .



Let me help help you out.

Less guessing = more gooder! More gooder dear informacion is more gooder managemit praktices and more dear to shine the qbeam on.



i don't know what a Qbeam has to do with it ???

that's not explaining ,,, that's trying a attempt to be a smart ass . lol





I told you I wasn't no damn biologist, I am a smartass though. smile


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Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: YEKRUT] #669310
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So instead of the government doing a census every 10 years they can just count death certificates? Wow, I just saved us millions of dollars!

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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
You have to start somewhere.... It takes history to create data.... We in Alabama have no history... In order to get history the State has established this program... It is and has worked in other States... and will work in this State when we get a report on the past data.. In order to get this data you have to have people/hunters tell us what is going on in the kill zone...


Like I said before, If that was the case, why not just let hunters fill out a quick last years harvest report when they purchase their new license? It would be much simpler, cost less, and be easier to enforce.

The new laws are about revenue, control, and growing the system.

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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
You have to start somewhere.... It takes history to create data.... We in Alabama have no history... In order to get history the State has established this program... It is and has worked in other States... and will work in this State when we get a report on the past data.. In order to get this data you have to have people/hunters tell us what is going on in the kill zone...


Like I said before, If that was the case, why not just let hunters fill out a quick last years harvest report when they purchase their new license? It would be much simpler, cost less, and be easier to enforce.

The new laws are about revenue, control, and growing the system.


You mean like a migratory bird report I have to fill out every year I buy my license?

Re: The 24 hour rule on check in [Re: extreme heights hunter] #669317
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
So instead of the government doing a census every 10 years they can just count death certificates? Wow, I just saved us millions of dollars!


And birth certificates, be pretty damn close then I imagine. Better yet, let a buck of rednecks decide if they want to participate and if they don't just don't count them.


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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
You have to start somewhere.... It takes history to create data.... We in Alabama have no history... In order to get history the State has established this program... It is and has worked in other States... and will work in this State when we get a report on the past data.. In order to get this data you have to have people/hunters tell us what is going on in the kill zone...



The new laws are about revenue, control, and growing the system.


Where does the revenue come into play while reporting a dead deer.... It doesn't cost me anything to make a phone call... So who is collecting the phone call money?


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Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
So instead of the government doing a census every 10 years they can just count death certificates? Wow, I just saved us millions of dollars!


And birth certificates, be pretty damn close then I imagine. Better yet, let a buck of rednecks decide if they want to participate and if they don't just don't count them.


Doubt we will be able to get the deer to fill out a birth certificate, but I have been wrong before.

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