What is it gong to hurt to know if it has nuts or a vagina or if it has buttons or 13 points beside Eddie just don't want to play ball and be a PITA every chance he gets.

Evidently the State believes it will hurt if they don't know if a deer has nuts or a vagina or buttons or 13 point. Otherwise, they would not FORCE you to report it under THREAT of penalty.

Again, how does a kill list tell anybody about what is still walking around without MAKING AN AWFUL LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS?? With the ASSUMPTIONS a person can make any data fit into any agenda that they deem necessary.

Much of the restocking in Alabama was done by private citizens at their own expense.

Why are you so enthralled with QDMA? I'm not even a member? Read a little higher where I could care less about the buck limits and whatnot. I just want the good data so important herd changing decisions can be made,

If our fawn recruitment in 10% then yes, I think as managers we should do something. If our doe and buck weights start to plummet, then yes we need to step in because we are allowing habitat degradation.

These so called QDMA rules you speak of....I could care less, I will hunt the way I hunt regardless what you want.

You are the one that unblocked me. You don't have to like it, but you do have to deal with it especially since I did start this thread. I could really care less about what happens to the deer in alabama, I have killed 0 in my life in alabama and don't see that changing anytime soon. I have watched what tn has done for the last 30 years and I know for a fact that better tagging and management of the deer heard trough checking in of game has helped the herd. The quality of deer and age class has increased greatly and for he people who,enjoy shooting a trophy spike they are still there too. Come up sometime and I will take you up and let you kill your 3 does a day and 1 buck up on one of my places.

So how does hunter kill data provide information on fawn recruitment?

To me it is all about health, success and fun!

I'd love to find out more about this, if you have some sources. Thanks.

Just making a point on when I thought we should manipulate the population. You have to get other info to get recruitment numbers.

it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species

Obviously we will never attain any of these with our State..

NightHunter,


Are you trying to say that fawn recruitment is an ingredient of the "... protect, conserve, and increase the wildlife of the state" functions of the DCNR?

I might give you that one if you are.

... it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species

NightHunter,


Are you trying to say that fawn recruitment is an ingredient of the "... protect, conserve, and increase the wildlife of the state" functions of the DCNR?

I might give you that one if you are. Of course, it would depend on this other provision:

You might be surprised if you give them a chance.

That is my point with the data collection period. I could care less about any of the harvest restrictions. The data gives us the ability to step in if we see a problem occurring. You can usually see major issues a few years out and manage your way out of them by changing your harvest numbers. It allows you to protect your herd health and habitat.

(7) To close the season of any species of game in any county or area when, upon a survey by the department, it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species and to reopen such closed season when it is deemed advisable.

Then we must see if:



If so, it fits the functions and duties defined by law for the DCNR.

Are we still on the same page?

It does fit, that is why I have no issue with it.