I would say that it because you are hunting a corn pile and the bucks are not using it in daylight hours. The was easy, got a tough one?

I don't care if they manage in units, by zone or by county. I don't care if the 3 buck rule goes away. I DO agree with reporting the harvest. It is helpful.

Soooo ... You are saying .... One universal buck rule would suit all counties.. As long as it fits into the States agenda... Well... sums it up for me... One rule.. Works for all.. Is the way it sound to me... Great management idea by the State... Why didn't they think of this years ago... We wouldn't be in the predicament we are in now....

NightHunter,


How in the world did our deer population ever go from 3000 to 1.8 million without all this crap you think is so necessary?

We managed very well without the unnecessary manipulation of the species you want to force on us because of your QDMA indoctrination and beliefs.

I do agree with you on this... It is a step in the right direction... As I have said earlier... you need history to create data... We have none...

They already have implemented wildlife management, you quote the regs upwards of 100 times a day so i am sure you might have noticed the seasons and bag limits portion. they have limits and seasons on every game animal in the state already. What is it gong to hurt to know if it has nuts or a vagina or if it has buttons or 13 points beside Eddie just don't want to play ball and be a PITA every chance he gets.

NightHunter,

What problem do you have with the DCNR just following the law?

They are required to do their own surveys to determine if the seasons need to be closed because it "... is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species".

If you want more than that, see your legislators. They are the ones elected to write our laws.

That's an easy one. The EVIL State restocked deer and did a good job with their biologists and conservation officers managing a depleted resource and educating the public about deer. The deer did the rest.

Problem there 49er.. Is they listen to the ones with their own personal agendas.... not what best suits the State... You expect that to change??? I don't....

Yekrut,


I'd just as soon leave you alone and you leave me alone.

Why can't you be happy with that instead of pushing for the DCNR to collect data from me that you want to read about?

Why are you being such a PITA?

I'll be damned, they managed something and by damned it worked out great for everyone. Say it ain't so.

The way I read it they are well within their regulatory ability with the new regs.

Regulatory processes and law making processes are completely different and I have had them explained to me thoroughly.

NightHunter,


Your history doesn't match what I've read. Much of the restocking in Alabama was done by private citizens at their own expense. The DCNR got involved later.

You still didn't answer my question. How did the population of deer in Alabama grow to current levels from near extinction without the rules you and the QDMA are now pushing if they are so necessary to the health of the species?

This one first. This is partly true but my understanding is that the state did the actual restocking process.

NightHunter,


You better believe law making processes are completely different from the regulation making process.

Lawmakers are only limited in their authority by our constitutions. Rule makers are limited to the authority of lawmakers that has been delegated to them.

They must not teach political science at Auburn. You guys can't comprehend that concept of our constitutional system of government.

Show me where the authority to mandate wildlife management practices on privately owned and leased lands has been delegated to the DCNR.

You cannot do it. It hasn't been done.

Give me an example when that happened...

You are the one that unblocked me. You don't have to like it, but you do have to deal with it especially since I did start this thread. I could really care less about what happens to the deer in alabama, I have killed 0 in my life in alabama and don't see that changing anytime soon. I have watched what tn has done for the last 30 years and I know for a fact that better tagging and management of the deer heard trough checking in of game has helped the herd. The quality of deer and age class has increased greatly and for he people who,enjoy shooting a trophy spike they are still there too. Come up sometime and I will take you up and let you kill your 3 does a day and 1 buck up on one of my places.

Why are you so enthralled with QDMA? I'm not even a member? Read a little higher where I could care less about the buck limits and whatnot. I just want the good data so important herd changing decisions can be made,

If our fawn recruitment in 10% then yes, I think as managers we should do something. If our doe and buck weights start to plummet, then yes we need to step in because we are allowing habitat degradation.

These so called QDMA rules you speak of....I could care less, I will hunt the way I hunt regardless what you want.

Can we agree that restocking is a necessary ingredient of conservation, preservation and perpetuation of the species?


Section 9-2-2
Powers and duties generally.
The general functions and duties of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources shall be as follows:

(1) To protect, conserve, and increase the wildlife of the state and to administer all laws relating to wildlife and the protection, conservation, and increase thereof.

Then leave me to hunt the way I want and quit worrying about what we kill on our lease or the "health of our herd" there.

The terminology you are using to support your liberal agenda is right out of the QDMA playbook. I was there when the QDMA was born. I was once a member. I know where your ideas originated.