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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Todd1700]
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10/09/13 04:07 PM
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Not to highjack the thread, but can the non believers please tell me what you credit creation to? I have always wondered that Well like you said I don't want to hijack the thread into a long religious debate. Short answer I have no idea what caused the massive explosion that set things in motion in our universe. But just because I don't know something I'm not going to fill in the gaps in my knowledge with a story written by men 2000 years ago who I can assure you didn't have any more knowledge about the nature of the universe than you or I. In fact they were much less knowledgeable about it and far more superstitious. But lets assume for the sake of argument that a God caused the big bang (and I'm not close minded to the notion) that still wouldn't prove that any of these organized religions really know anything about that deity or what he wants us to do. It also doesn't really solve the grand mystery of the universe either because the next logical question would simply be, where did God come from? So the big bang theory is the answer?
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Ben2]
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10/09/13 04:16 PM
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So the big bang theory is the answer?
Yes. And quite frankly I have never really understood why Christians have a problem with the big bang. A giant massive explosion that instantly created the whole universe. Exactly how is that inconsistent with the way a God would create the universe? LOL.
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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10/09/13 04:28 PM
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I have no idea whether creation was caused by a bang, clang or wang but I do know that most mainstream religions are pretty close-minded about who God is, and they base these beliefs on what they are told by someone who's entire livelyhood roots from their ability to convince others that they have a monopoly on right & wrong.
Hedge your bets? ALL religions say you lose if you even try.
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Ben2]
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10/09/13 04:29 PM
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Not to highjack the thread, but can the non believers please tell me what you credit creation to? I have always wondered that It will not take too long.... Read the book of Genesis, you will find your answers there.
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Todd1700]
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10/09/13 04:33 PM
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So the big bang theory is the answer?
Yes. And quite frankly I have never really understood why Christians have a problem with the big bang. A giant massive explosion that instantly created the whole universe. Exactly how is that inconsistent with the way a God would create the universe? LOL. You at least have faith, actually the same faith that you don't understand from Christians. You are doing the same thing you say Christians are doing, you have adopted a belief without what you or I may call certain proof  . For me personally, I have had too many things happen in perfect timing and prayers answered, and stuff that made no sense all of a sudden make sense 10 yrs later so that I am able to see that I am not in control, and all of this is not just a coincidence and that everything has a purpose and has been laid out perfectly. I am no saint, but I do my best to get better everyday. Regardless I wish the best to you and your family. Again sorry for hijacking the thread temporarily
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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10/09/13 04:35 PM
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I don't know why it is so hard for people to accept and realize that THE Creator knows more about how He created this place than the most brilliant example of mankind we have to offer.Genesis is the real time and way we came to be. It takes much.more faith in the unknown to believe in a random bang than God's very own account.
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Re: Militant Atheists
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10/09/13 04:37 PM
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I don't know why it is so hard for people to accept and realize that THE Creator knows more about how He created this place than the most brilliant example of mankind we have to offer.Genesis is the real time and way we came to be. It takes much.more faith in the unknown to believe in a random bang than God's very own account. x10000000 well said
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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10/09/13 04:42 PM
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To get the thread back on topic...Todd has his beliefs you have yours. Todd is not calling you names, or trying to trump your religion with the law, or anything else. These Militant Atheists are putting down peoples religious beliefs because they think their beliefs (or supposed lack of beliefs) are more right than yours.
In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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10/09/13 04:51 PM
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? I am no way condoning what they are doing... but they are simply presenting a separation of "church(religion)" and state.. I believe they are a bunch of idiots myself but the law supports what they are fighting for.. Don't think it is right but do believe these wombats will prevail in their fight... 
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Re: Militant Atheists
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? I am no way condoning what they are doing... but they are simply presenting a separation of "church(religion)" and state.. I believe they are a bunch of idiots myself but the law supports what they are fighting for.. Don't think it is right but do believe these wombats will prevail in their fight... There is no such law as separation of church and state.
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Re: Militant Atheists
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10/09/13 04:56 PM
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? I am no way condoning what they are doing... but they are simply presenting a separation of "church(religion)" and state.. I believe they are a bunch of idiots myself but the law supports what they are fighting for.. Don't think it is right but do believe these wombats will prevail in their fight... There is no such law as separation of church and state. Ask Roy Moore why the Ten Commandments were removed... You are not allowed to force religion on anyone... or lack there of... Not only that.. I never said there was a "LAW" of "separation".. I said the "law" supports what they are fighting against...
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? I am no way condoning what they are doing... but they are simply presenting a separation of "church(religion)" and state.. I believe they are a bunch of idiots myself but the law supports what they are fighting for.. Don't think it is right but do believe these wombats will prevail in their fight... There is no such law as separation of church and state. Ask Roy Moore why the Ten Commandments were removed... You are not allowed to force religion on anyone... or lack there of... The constitution has no such law. It only says that the government can make no law establishing a national religion. The whole separation of church and state thing came about from some secularist finding , and using to their benefit , some personal letters that Jefferson ( I think)wrote that mentioned it. Our Founding fathers founded this country on a foundation of Godly belief and they never intended for God to be excluded from every facet of government. It is just another lie that has been perpetrated on a society that really doesn't know the history of this countries beginnings nor has a strong grasp of our constitution.
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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10/09/13 05:15 PM
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? Obviously they do. There is no rational reason why they are trying to stop a program that actually works. If a fungus can cure a disease there is no harm is trying to figure out why it works but you do not kill the fungus because you don't like the way it smells or looks. They are trying to kill religion because they don't like it and they do not care that it works. So its clear that they support destruction instead of learning why in some cases religion works.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: bill]
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10/09/13 05:16 PM
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? I am no way condoning what they are doing... but they are simply presenting a separation of "church(religion)" and state.. I believe they are a bunch of idiots myself but the law supports what they are fighting for.. Don't think it is right but do believe these wombats will prevail in their fight... There is no such law as separation of church and state. Ask Roy Moore why the Ten Commandments were removed... You are not allowed to force religion on anyone... or lack there of... The constitution has no such law. It only says that the government can make no law establishing a national religion. The whole separation of church and state thing came about from some secularist finding , and using to their benefit , some personal letters that Jefferson ( I think)wrote that mentioned it. Our Founding fathers founded this country on a foundation of Godly belief and they never intended for God to be excluded from every facet of government. It is just another lie that has been perpetrated on a society that really doesn't know the history of this countries beginnings nor has a strong grasp of our constitution. You are right about Jefferson writing that... He did... I am simply saying the society today... and the laws in place... with who is backing them... create this separation along with ACLU not allowing anything remotely close to religion to take part of everyday life.. That is why I relate it to Roy Moore... He forced no universal religion.. He simply stated this as universal law... and it was still rejected...
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? Obviously they do. There is no rational reason why they are trying to stop a program that actually works. If a fungus can cure a disease there is no harm is trying to figure out why it works but you do not kill the fungus because you don't like the way it smells or looks. They are trying to kill religion because they don't like it and they do not care that it works. So its clear that they support destruction instead of learning why in some cases religion works. I agree with what you are saying Skinny...But their beliefs.. granted.."in their mind".. do not support violence... They believe there is another alternative to cleaning things up rather than religion...They are wrong... but that is their belief..
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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Re: Militant Atheists
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? Obviously they do. There is no rational reason why they are trying to stop a program that actually works. If a fungus can cure a disease there is no harm is trying to figure out why it works but you do not kill the fungus because you don't like the way it smells or looks. They are trying to kill religion because they don't like it and they do not care that it works. So its clear that they support destruction instead of learning why in some cases religion works. I agree with what you are saying Skinny...But their beliefs.. granted.."in their mind".. do not support violence... They believe there is another alternative to cleaning things up rather than religion...They are wrong... but that is their belief.. They openly say that they do not believe in anything. So if they have beliefs then they are not being truthful about something.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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In fact, they are so bent on destroying religion that they will try and stop a religious program that helps to stop urban violence. Are you saying they support violence? Obviously they do. There is no rational reason why they are trying to stop a program that actually works. If a fungus can cure a disease there is no harm is trying to figure out why it works but you do not kill the fungus because you don't like the way it smells or looks. They are trying to kill religion because they don't like it and they do not care that it works. So its clear that they support destruction instead of learning why in some cases religion works. I agree with what you are saying Skinny...But their beliefs.. granted.."in their mind".. do not support violence... They believe there is another alternative to cleaning things up rather than religion...They are wrong... but that is their belief.. They openly say that they do not believe in anything. So if they have beliefs then they are not being truthful about something. I don't know what they believe.... I am not one.... So I can not speak on that.... Personal opinion here... They are the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson of Religion... They have no other basis to back "whatever" they believe in.. So they use their non belief against all other religions to fight against religion in general.... Like Al and Jesse... It is a money maker and a propaganda stunt for other atheist or the ones who are "on the fence" to jump on that band wagon...
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Re: Militant Atheists
[Re: Skinny]
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Had a guy ask me one time.....why do you believe so much in your religion,he then said what if you are wrong.....i simply replied......what if i am right
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