I dont care if someone is an atheist or not, but when they do these kinds of things it pisses me off. http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/arti...n-Good-Shepherd

ACLU is piling on:

http://blog.al.com/montgomery/2013/10/aclu_montgomerys_sending_clerg.html#incart_river_default

Round the bastards up and take 'em to Winston County, treat 'em like those 4 dead degenerates and see if they don't start begging God to help them.

Thats fine just let one of those criminals attack them ant say the hell with them. Who called and needed help oh let them monkey phhkers call the zoo for help. Maybe they will send clyde over to help them.

well ,, as a non believer i don't like this either . i don't see the problem ???

I bet it would be interesting to know the number of non believers during the hours of death. All I can say is I hope you non believers are right --- for your sake!

Is being a non believer really worth taking a chance at believing nothing is after this life? I do not see how some one can wake up everyday, eat, enjoy your life everyday all along believing they came to existence by chance. Mystifying outlook on life to me being raised a Southern Christian Country Boy.

They can organize all they want... Make it volunteer and tell them guys to go to HE!!

Would you suggest someone believe simply to hedge their bets?

If you do not believe; talk to a Hospice Nurse or someone who sees death on a daily basis and let he/she tell you about their experiences of what they witness. The faces and actions of those passing which have led wicked and evil past would make anyone who was not a believer to re-think their beliefs. I am a believer and the witnessed stories I've heard lead me to pray for those who don't......You're gonna need them!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't. I would suggest believing because God is the Alpha and Omega and Jesus died on a cross as the last blood sacrifice to save us from our sins.

Been a nurse for 17 years. Been at the bedside of many people as they passed. Probably more than any hospice nurse because despite the plan to die at home with hospice most of their patients end up back at the hospital with us on their last day.

Never seen anything remotely like what you are talking about. I have certainly never seen any differences in the deaths of patients related to one religious belief or another. Seen some devoutly religious people die peacefully and some die horribly. Same with non religious people. No distinguishable pattern to it whatsoever.

"a police program that uses city funding to train pastors to go to crime scenes."

I'm with you skinny 100%. All taxpayers should fund a Christian backed plan. Damn right!

Regardless of ya'lls or mine's spiritual beliefs, what these militant atheists are doing is wrong.
Most people do have spiritual beliefs and if a minister, rabbi, priest etc... show up to a scene of violence with police they can help to diffuse it peacefully. However, I would like to see them trained to react if more violence were to break out. Domestic disputes are a classic example where the presence of someone in "cloth" can help to calm a bad situation and reach a peaceful resolution quickly. The goal of the program is to stop or prevent more violence and it has shown some good results. These militant atheists are just getting in the damn way because they hate religion not because of a moral belief in upholding the Constitution.

My wife has been an ICU nurse for 20 years and says the same thing, death is a personal & individual thing. Most folks die by just stopping being alive.

Oddly enough I hear this from Christians all the time. Don't you want to believe, "just in case". I was raised Church of God and unless what they taught me is radically different than the other religions in the area I don't think that kind of faith would do you any good if the Christians do have things right.

Bottom line is that you cannot make yourself believe something that you don't believe. It's as simple as that. I have no problems with any one else's beliefs and I wish groups would not stir up the kind of hatred lawsuits like the one in the link most assuredly will. I could care less if preachers go to crime scenes with public money behind it. Nor am I offended if people put up nativity scenes at public buildings. And here is something you probably won't believe but the overwhelming majority of atheists or agnostics like myself don't care about those things either. Just radical s##t stirrers like the ones in the link.

So don't paint everyone with a broad brush. Are all Baptists like the ones at Westboro Baptist Church? I doubt you would like being associated with them just because you both come under the huge umbrella of people who call themselves Christians.

Frankie, I respect you and your posts but I didn't see this coming as most on this sight are open about being believers.

Not to highjack the thread, but can the non believers please tell me what you credit creation to? I have always wondered that

Todd, I'm a believer but you are spot on. You either have faith or you don't and there is no point in faking it. People can be respectful and considerate of one another regardless of weather they are a Christian or not.

Well like you said I don't want to hijack the thread into a long religious debate. Short answer I have no idea what caused the massive explosion that set things in motion in our universe. But just because I don't know something I'm not going to fill in the gaps in my knowledge with a story written by men 2000 years ago who I can assure you didn't have any more knowledge about the nature of the universe than you or I. In fact they were much less knowledgeable about it and far more superstitious.

But lets assume for the sake of argument that a God caused the big bang (and I'm not close minded to the notion) that still wouldn't prove that any of these organized religions really know anything about that deity or what he wants us to do. It also doesn't really solve the grand mystery of the universe either because the next logical question would simply be, where did God come from?