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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773881
12/09/13 06:10 AM
12/09/13 06:10 AM
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Posts: 24,155 Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill
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Freak of Nature
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7 mag at close range will sometimes blow up on impact. I have seen it happen with BT but never a soft lead point bullet.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773886
12/09/13 06:15 AM
12/09/13 06:15 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,406 Walker county
Driveby
Doing the best I can.
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Doing the best I can.
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Walker county
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If you're getting that many shots at that range you may want to go with something bigger and slower.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773888
12/09/13 06:16 AM
12/09/13 06:16 AM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,018 Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
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Freak of Nature
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Buc-ee’s Beach Express
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I experienced the opposite and would ruin a lot of meat at close range with my 7mag. I always shot 155 grain ballistic tip no matter what. Even tried core lokt a season or two so I dropped way down this year with a 308 and love it. I'm so over I've gotta have the biggest rifle in the woods as I've gotten older but to each his on.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773896
12/09/13 06:23 AM
12/09/13 06:23 AM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 16,024 Brierfield
Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Brierfield
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Some deer run when they get shot. 20-50 yards isn't far at all. With that being a high shoulder shot he is going to be laying in his tracks
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773903
12/09/13 06:27 AM
12/09/13 06:27 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,565 Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Cape San Blas, Florida
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Try something other than Powerpoints just to see. For close-in and medium-range work at velocities around 3000FPS and slower, nothing wrong with a basic Core-Lokt.
I don't have any first-hand experience with Powerpoints and never use them, but I have heard 2 different guys say the same thing (blowups) about them at close range.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773905
12/09/13 06:28 AM
12/09/13 06:28 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 22,304 Mayberry
Brent
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I shoot a 7 Mag too. If I get them inside the 20-50 yard range I shoot them in the neck or high in the shoulder. They usually only travel downward about 36 inches.
"How in the hell did you get to be a moderator?"...Skinny
God Bless Nick Saban!
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773909
12/09/13 06:30 AM
12/09/13 06:30 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,679 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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When the 7mmRM came out it had a reputation for wounding and losing smallish(deer size) big game. The cartridge was designed to be a med to big biggame cartridge and bullets were designed accordingly...tough and deep penetrating. 150gr bullets are not designed for light skinned deer but for elk and such.
shoot a lighter bullet, any of the 140's will do better than a 150. Not much difference in weight but a good bit in design.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773913
12/09/13 06:35 AM
12/09/13 06:35 AM
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Posts: 36,679 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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BIL and a friend had similar probs with 7mmRMs shooting 162gr Sierra Match King bullets, bullets zipped thru with little to no expansion. I tried to tell em to shoot sometthing else after they wounded and lost several deer. But their reply was " the 162 is ballistically superior and more accurate". No chitt, it's a target bullet. Just what does it do AFTER IT HITS SKIN??????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773916
12/09/13 06:37 AM
12/09/13 06:37 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,565 Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Cape San Blas, Florida
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Mr. Troy, that answer makes more sense to me. He IS seeing exit wounds and I agree with you. He ain't tearing enough of the wheelhouse up. It's like driving a nail through the animal.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773918
12/09/13 06:40 AM
12/09/13 06:40 AM
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 26,695 Helena
3toe
Talking Turkey
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Talking Turkey
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Helena
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I once shot a nice 7point with my 7mm mag BAR at maybe 7-8 yds from the base of the tree I was in. Almost straight down shot from around 20' up, right behind the front leg. Deer ran about 75 yds before piling up. I thought I had missed. You could have stuck a baseball in the exit hole and upon dressing him, the lower half of his heart had been shot off. Sometimes I think they are just pumped up and run. I will add once I started shooting deer through the front shoulders they don't have the ability to run whether they are DRT or take a second to expire.
Last edited by 3toe; 12/09/13 06:41 AM.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773960
12/09/13 07:03 AM
12/09/13 07:03 AM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,573 Petal,MS,USA
SFC3
10 point
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10 point
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Not a fan of ANYTHING with Winchester on it...a 7MM is over kill on Bambi..get a 139 grain Hornady Interbond ...and no caliber is bang flop everytime ...bang flop is on bullet placement anyway...high shoulder makes them DRT...neck if you can hit it with a decent caliber and a good bullet...
Grumpy Old MS Bastage
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773961
12/09/13 07:04 AM
12/09/13 07:04 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,675 Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
12 point
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12 point
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My son had a 7mm magnum, and used to shoot winchester silver baliistic tips, in 150 grain. Killed deer, but a lot of them would run off, and the blood trails were spotty. I convinced him to change over to Hornady SST ammo, in 139 grain. Now everything takes a dirt nap, massive wound channels.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773964
12/09/13 07:05 AM
12/09/13 07:05 AM
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Posts: 36,679 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I've shot a 140gr Nosler Partition in a 7mmRM for years. Great performance at any range. Federal loads this bullet in a factory load.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#773969
12/09/13 07:07 AM
12/09/13 07:07 AM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,573 Petal,MS,USA
SFC3
10 point
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10 point
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...bought a 2 yr old Rem 742 30-06 once for $100...guy was shooting 220 grain bullets in it...said it didn't drop deer...resold it 2 days later (I didn't need it) for $300 ...guns shoot...bullets kill...
Grumpy Old MS Bastage
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
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#773983
12/09/13 07:19 AM
12/09/13 07:19 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,982 Tuscaloosa
Thisldu
8 point
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8 point
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Posts: 1,982
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DRT requires nervous system damage. At that distance shoot 'em in the base of the neck, or high shoulder. A .223 will drop them dead in their tracks if you hit spinal cord or a main branch of it.
They can run with no heart or lungs for 50-75 yards, if their nervous system is intact.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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