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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: dadbud] #814724
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Originally Posted By: dadbud
Issues with what please tell me?

All this makes me worry how much longer this truly amazing sport will be allowed in this country. I love deer hunting, I respect the animal's ability to survive and I respect most people who pursue them and I don't want to loose my freedom of being able to hunt deer.

The issue earlier was with you comparing shooting at a shaking bush and a running deer.
Now all I'll say is, I will continue shooting at a running deer if I feel like its a "high percentage" shot. There's no difference in shooting at one running and standing still. There are shots that you just shouldn't take, especially on public ground, such as but not limited to, shooting at a deer standing (or running) on a ridge top and you have no "background" and no idea where that bullet is going to hit.
If someone shoots at a running deer and slings lead all throughout the sky, well they probably shouldn't be holding that rifle to begin with until they learn how to handle it. If they shoot like that at a running deer, they'll probably shoot like that on a standing deer also.
Don't limit ALL kids either. A man drive is a fun way to hunt, and can be enjoyed by most. I started carrying a rifle while hunting when I was 7. By the time I was 11 or 12, I was as safe and "mature," as far as carrying a loaded rifle as I am now. I was a kid when I did the few man drives that I have done, and I didn't kill anyone, just a deer or two. And 1 of them was "jogging"! Oh no!!
Speaking of losing freedom, If you feel it is not safe, then stay off public property. That simple. Man drives are going to happen. Limit your kid how you see fit, not mine, or anybodies other than your own. We'll live by the law, and if you want to limit yourself even more, have at it! But if I am lucky enough to be involved in another man drive, please, excuse me. I'll NOT interrupt your hunt on purpose, but if it happens, just remember, I paid the same amount you did to hunt that PUBLIC property. Hope the rest of your season goes uninterrupted, and make sure that deer stops dead in his tracks before you shoot! wink


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #815747
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Not true buckhunter. I won't give it up and I have passed it down like my granddad and dad. I don't think it's a bubble I live in and if so then I've been in it for 43 years and I'm comfortable. I hunt on my property, friends property and occasionally I hunt public land on the disabled areas because my son is disabled and they have shooting houses and no drives are allowed. I have taken my son to WMA's but I cringe and can't enjoy myself for worrying about folks like yourself knowing my son would sit patiently through hell or high water bacause I taught him to hunt like that and then someone shot him because of a man drive.

Johnal3 - It's not an issue I have it's just plain not allowed and my family groups hunting like this together and it's called "bush huntin" or shooting at moving bushes which is what happens when a deer is running. If a person gets used to shootin running deer they are nervous acting, finger on the trigger or what we call "trigger happy". That's what shooting at running deer teaches a person. Then giving the right situation a hunter like this will shoot any direction and take extra risks such as a buck jumps up...I've seen em run back behind me before the direction I came from you never know what they are gonna do.

Another thought on this and why like you say I live in a bubble is because when I learned to deer hunt you couldn't shoot a doe. You had to make sure of your target before you shot.

Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #816212
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I was gonna go hunt a WMA for the first time next week, but with people shootin bushes!


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #816265
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Dadbud, I'll just agree to disagree. I have never and will never shoot at a damn bush moving or a sound. Thats just your wacko way of thinking. Have a nice day.


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: dadbud] #816269
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Originally Posted By: dadbud
Oh I agree drives can be safe but on a mgmt area where you have no idea where other hunters are? No way it can be safe. Shooting at a running deer is and always has been unsafe. It's called bush huntin. Shootin at moving bushes. It's a bad habit to teach a kid and a bad habit to develop and a good way to shoot somebody.


maybe, just maybe, the stupidest post I've ever read on this forum......

do you have any idea what in the hell you are talking about or are you just spouting words????


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: BhamFred] #816279
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Originally Posted By: dadbud
Oh I agree drives can be safe but on a mgmt area where you have no idea where other hunters are? No way it can be safe. Shooting at a running deer is and always has been unsafe. It's called bush huntin. Shootin at moving bushes. It's a bad habit to teach a kid and a bad habit to develop and a good way to shoot somebody.


maybe, just maybe, the stupidest post I've ever read on this forum......

do you have any idea what in the hell you are talking about or are you just spouting words????


Hahaha! I've done some bush huntin' before but it wasn't in the woods!



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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #816284
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Good lord who really cares?


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Who really cares about what? This thread? If you didn't care about it why take the time to post?



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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #816515
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Shooting moving bushes is the most stupid thing you could ever teach a person who hunts. PERIOD. I heard there was a 14 year old shot last year by an 18 year old friend. There were 3 boys hunting hogs in Bankhead, they had split up and all had on orange, shooter told that the bushes were shaking and he thought it was a hog. I think he lived. Now this boy was taught to do this. By who you ask? An irresponsible ignorant uneducated hunter like the one I will not be associated with.

Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #817073
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Hunted Choccolocco WMA this afternoon and had this very thing happen. There's a big cutover with essentially two roads for entry. One is a gated road (that is actually open for vehicle access during deer season, but for the life of me I can't understand why you would drive your dern truck through the middle of the cutover you're about to hunt???), the other is a dim road with a post in it that comes in from another side of the cut. I parked on the post road and climbed about as far to the back of the cutover as I could walk to (so as not to be driven in on). From 11:00 till dark today I saw one group of 8 guys walking in and around this cutover, and two more groups of two. The problem I had most of all is that both of those groups of two parked right by my truck and walked in. What kind of inconsiderate person would do that, and why? Why would you want to hunt where someone else has already beaten you to, ESPECIALLY if you know full well your plan is to walk around and jump everything out of the cutover??? That kind of person brings out the worst in me.


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #817371
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Well I've been hunting national forest for 6 years and I've only walked up on one person and that's only because the road split and there was a pine thicket he went in on one side of the road and me on the other. I just turned around went to the other side of the road and hunted. I've been in man drive so I guess my dad didn't teach me how to hunt. If you go hunt national forest once a year then you might be surprised to how some of us that hunt it every weekend do to kill a deer. We have to figure out how to kill deer since they go nocturnal bout a week after gun starts. In Bankhead most of the time you can count on 1 hand the people that are hunting around Speake.

Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: ikillbux] #817416
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Ikillbux , its tuff to set and watch people come in on you I hope you were in a tree , I think its the only safe place to be, of sorts, My next trip on the 16th Ill make sure Iam in plain sight. good luck.

Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #817652
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I grew up on the Talladega side of Cheaha mountain, hunted the National Forest my entire life....well, I don't deer hunt it but maybe once a year anymore. It is completely overtaken by dog hunters. Got nothing against dog hunters (I'm not one of "those guys" who hate dog hunters), but they basically own that entire mountain once gun season comes in. You dang sure aren't going to find any place where trucks, guys, and dogs haven't pressured the bejeebers out of every deer around.
And y'all, I swear I'm not an angry guy with no perspective! LOL I never hunted private land, or from a treestand, a single time in my life till my mid-twenties. I actually grew up hunting on the Anniston Army Depot, where several guys who knew each other would pick areas that bordered each other, then we'd man drive it. But again, we were not man driving any area occupied by someone not in our group.
I noticed something yesterday that I believe is akin to the personality that doesn't mind messing other hunters up. I've noticed this always, but yesterday it was just really fresh on my mind. When I hunt public land I will get up really early, and arrive at my spot really early, even if I just sit in my truck for a while, for the sole purpose of making sure I get the place I want to hunt (and so that other folks will jump deer towards me). On WMAs 95% of the traffic rolls in right before daylight. More times than not, I am already in my tree when most of the trucks are popping gravel on the roads. These are just people who aren't all that serious about hunting, therefore they don't quite understand why it bothers folks like me who ARE serious about it. It's that "different breed" of folk like someone mentioned above.


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: garyo] #817710
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Ikillbux , since making this pushing deer post I have learn a lot about that different type of hunter's , I have to stay on the ground so I have to be more care full where I am ,good luck

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I'll be happy to note I had a buck chasing by me today but couldn't catch but glimpses. I never took a bush shot but if he had run in one of my lanes I would have cut down on his arse.


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Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
I'll be happy to note I had a buck chasing by me today but couldn't catch but glimpses. I never took a bush shot but if he had run in one of my lanes I would have cut down on his arse.


U bush hunting no good........
I hope you don't teach your kids that kinda crap. laugh


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Re: W.M.A. Deer pushing [Re: Turkey_neck] #818435
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Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
I'll be happy to note I had a buck chasing by me today but couldn't catch but glimpses. I never took a bush shot but if he had run in one of my lanes I would have cut down on his arse.

My two cents here too - My son has taken 2 small bucks this year and I've been getting on him about leaving them to grow up. Told him to wait on the big un. Yesterday saw a deer coming through the woods along a ridge line I was hunting but he was moving too fast for me to shoot. I picked out a spot that if he'd stop I would take a shot if it was a big buck. Sure enough he stopped broadside perfect an eitht point at least. I was using my son's gun i'm not used to and i slide the safety off reached up pulled the trigger gun didn't go off. His safety has two positions mine is just a push button. When it didn't go off I looked down at the gun to find out what was wrong and the buck started snortin at me and ran off.

Moral - Always use you're own gun. I coulda shot at him while he was runnin up but I can't do that right cause I've run my mouth on here. Better to be safe than sorry always!

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