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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
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01/08/14 03:51 AM
01/08/14 03:51 AM
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Nothing corny about it! That's good stuff. I wish you would have been at my place, I would have gave the green light for your boy.
WM Hunter "Trump literally sacrificed himself, his family and all of his businesses for this country. He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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01/08/14 04:00 AM
01/08/14 04:00 AM
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Posts: 1,983 Tuscaloosa
Thisldu
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Another example of managing the fun right out of deer hunting. Go get your popcorn.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
#812197
01/08/14 04:05 AM
01/08/14 04:05 AM
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Posts: 14,773 Clanton
Turkey_neck
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You are a better man than I am I honestly don't think I could have made my self keep from telling him shoot. A 120" deer is a stud for a kid and a lot of grown men. Sometimes it's easier to beg forgivness than ask permission.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
#812205
01/08/14 04:11 AM
01/08/14 04:11 AM
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Posts: 2,435 HUEYTOWN,AL
Shaneomac1
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I had the same thing happen with my nephew this year. A spike come out and he was ready to kill it and i told him it had to be 6 point and up.
"To be angry is to be alive. I love it. Anger is better than love. I think it is more pure,". Al Goldstein
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/08/14 04:26 AM
01/08/14 04:26 AM
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Posts: 32,451 North Alabama
YEKRUT
Turkey Nut
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Turkey Nut
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You are a better man than I am I honestly don't think I could have made my self keep from telling him shoot. A 120" deer is a stud for a kid and a lot of grown men. Sometimes it's easier to beg forgivness than ask permission. Yep, if a 120" 3 year old isn't something a 10 year old kid can shoot I don't know that I would want to be hunting the place myself. I bet an adult has to shoot 200" or better.
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
#812236
01/08/14 04:36 AM
01/08/14 04:36 AM
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Posts: 26,802 Helena
3toe
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It will happen for him, on an even bigger buck because you are teaching him the right way. I guarantee it. A short example. About 7 yrs ago a friend on here (MarkBama) was kind enough invite myself and 8 yr old down to his club to try and kill a doe, just get a deer in front of the kid because it had been rough seeing deer where we hunted. Rules were 4 on one side and outside the ears, but we werent' really interested in that, just wanted a doe kill. We are in a shooting house on a field thats about 180 yds long per the range finder. About 8:30am a nice 6 pt steps out at the end of the field. He gets all excited but I told him he was not big enough and to just wait on a doe. As I am looking at this deer in my binos, he asks "What about that one behind it?". I glass over and about poop my pants. Very nice 3+yr old at least with a good rack well outside the ears. My son is propped up and ready to shoot but I won't let him. One, too far and the deer would never get broadside. Both finally left the field. He was extremely disappointed. About 15min later a nice doe steps out at 50 yds. Now were talking, just what we came for. She feeds right at us, then turned directly away and back into the woods, never offering more than a brisket or a butt shot. I wouldn't let him shoot. He is about in tears with disappointment now. I could feel my heart about to pop for him, but he needed to learn how to do it right. So, as we sit there licking our wounds it's about 9:30am. We are talking about getting out of the shooting house and calling it quits. As we start getting our stuff together, I hear the woods start boiling up behind the house. I told him to grab his gun quick and get ready. About 30-45 second later from our right about 35-40 yds away the 6 pt we saw early came high tailing it out of the woods like something was chasing it. I told him get "ready, I bet that big one is chasing him". About that time the bigger one we saw ran out and stopped broadside at 40yds. I asked if he was on him, he said yes, and I said let him have it. Perfect heart/lung shot and the deer ran maybe 75yds out into the field and piled up. To say we both were pumped was an understatement. After high fives and hugs all around, I told him "That's why you do it the right way, good things happened because you did it the right way". We went and checked him out and got him loaded up. I think what was more impressive was the adults back at the sign in board. The high fives and congrats by everyone just lit him up even more. I know to have a guest shoot a nice buck on your club is not ideal for a member, but no one showed it and was very nice. Thanks again Mark, 7 yrs later. You made a boys year possibly his hutning career until he gets a bigger one. Our morning view Deer was a 175lb 7pt.
Last edited by 3toe; 01/08/14 04:39 AM.
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
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01/08/14 04:41 AM
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Posts: 3,238 Sterrett, AL, USA
stkshtr
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I have been in your shoes and I can assure you when he kills his first "rack" buck he will look back and see the road he took to get it. We had to pass on several in past years but my son killed a 15 pt with a bow this year and he said he was glad he waited on the others. It's tough as a father to tell them to wait but you have to respect the landowner/lessee's rules when it's not your place and I congratulate you on doing that. This will result in many other opportunities to hunt this place more.
CISM- Firefighter Chaplain-C.E.R.T. Instructor Refuel Ministries-HAM (KM4LBG)
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
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01/08/14 04:53 AM
01/08/14 04:53 AM
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Im all about managing deer for size...but our standards are greatly loosened when a kid is hunting.
That 120+ inch buck wouldve been a buck of a lifetime for a young hunter,..and would have done A LOT for increasing his passion for hunting. I think if a kid is hunting any nice racked buck is a green light for them.
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
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01/08/14 05:30 AM
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Ike McCaslin
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Im all about managing deer for size...but our standards are greatly loosened when a kid is hunting.
That 120+ inch buck wouldve been a buck of a lifetime for a young hunter,..and would have done A LOT for increasing his passion for hunting. I think if a kid is hunting any nice racked buck is a green light for them. This may well be true for some, or even most kids, but I know it wouldn't have worked that way with me. If I'd gone to someone else's honey hole and shot a big deer sitting in their stand when I was 10 it would've substantially reduced my drive to go more and get better. There's certainly nothing wrong with your first deer being a random hoss, but there's obviously something to be said for the self discipline learned and the memories of the time and work it took to find and kill a big deer. If you make it too easy it's liable to cheapen the whole experience for a child whose opinions on hunting are still being formed.
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: Ike McCaslin]
#812394
01/08/14 06:39 AM
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Posts: 8,005 Montgomery, AL
Hunting-231
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Im all about managing deer for size...but our standards are greatly loosened when a kid is hunting.
That 120+ inch buck wouldve been a buck of a lifetime for a young hunter,..and would have done A LOT for increasing his passion for hunting. I think if a kid is hunting any nice racked buck is a green light for them. This may well be true for some, or even most kids, but I know it wouldn't have worked that way with me. If I'd gone to someone else's honey hole and shot a big deer sitting in their stand when I was 10 it would've substantially reduced my drive to go more and get better. There's certainly nothing wrong with your first deer being a random hoss, but there's obviously something to be said for the self discipline learned and the memories of the time and work it took to find and kill a big deer. If you make it too easy it's liable to cheapen the whole experience for a child whose opinions on hunting are still being formed. Both are very good points. However, at the end of the day, you have to yield to the person that made the hunt possible. Otherwise your chances of getting a second invitation are pretty slim and the possibility of angering the person are pretty high.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
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Re: yesterdays experience with my son
[Re: tiderguy92]
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01/08/14 06:53 AM
01/08/14 06:53 AM
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Posts: 14,773 Clanton
Turkey_neck
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I hunted my arse off missed several bucks and had a bunch get away before killing my first. He was a 120" gross 9 and I promise you it didn't dampen the fire in me for hunting just made it worse. Now you take a kid put him in a shooting house the first day 10 min in he kills a giant I've seen it fire them up and some think it's too easy and never go again. If I take my son hunting on a high end managed property and a good deer that doesn't meet there standards walks out I will gladly give him the go and smile paying the fine. The more a kid has to just watch and not blast the less his drive will be. I've seen it happen too many times.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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