I own 800 acres thats been in my family for 100 yrs. Until 10 years ago we could see 25-40 deer in any of the 15 two acre fields we have. 1/3 to 1/2 of those deer would be bucks of all sizes including whole bachelor groups of 3-4 year olds on occasion. Bodyweights were never an issue and we've killed deer as heavy as 250 with the average 4yr old weighing 185-195. In the last 10 years WW3 broke out on all sides of us(all landowners with over 1000 acres). I shoot wallhangers only and sometimes go years without taking the safety off. Neighbors always killed lots of bucks but now that does are being killed its ended our hunting as we once knew it. These days its 5-20 deer per plot. The Only bucks we see are young bucks. There are only two 4 yr olds on camera on the whole property and they are strictly nocturnal. (I run 11 cameras year round) There is no increase in rut intensity, no increase in body weight, no more bachelor groups and every doe is super spooky. I feel like if I had gone with the crowd and harvested does then I would have zero deer. If killing does has that kind of impact amongst 4 800+ acre landholders I cant imagine the impact it must have on the hunters that dont have large tracts. IMO the only thing doe killing is good for is cutting down on traffic accidents.