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Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #924932 04/06/14 03:39 AM 04/06/14 03:39 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 20,017 PDL, Fl T timbercruiser Freak of Nature
timbercruiser Freak of Nature T Joined: May 2011 Posts: 20,017 PDL, Fl	I wonder what county this happened in?

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #924960 04/06/14 03:57 AM 04/06/14 03:57 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,658 UR 6 top cat Freak of Nature
top cat Freak of Nature Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,658 UR 6	Still haven't heard an answer I can believe or......boys will be boys.... LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #924969 04/06/14 04:08 AM 04/06/14 04:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	If everything he posted is the truth and is the only evidence presented, they need to appeal to the Alabama court of criminal appeals. I have personally never seen a Judge convict someone when there has been no evidence of a crime presented. If the facts are really what you say, that is not even circumstantial evidence of a crime.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #924971 04/06/14 04:10 AM 04/06/14 04:10 AM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 44,357 North Alabama W Wiley Coyote Freak of Nature
Wiley Coyote Freak of Nature W Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 44,357 North Alabama	Scott, in Alabama, how long would a person have to file an appeal in a case such as this Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not. NRA Life Member

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #924978 04/06/14 04:15 AM 04/06/14 04:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	42 days.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: doekiller] #924981 04/06/14 04:17 AM 04/06/14 04:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 27,455 Fayetteville TN Via Selma jawbone Freak of Nature
jawbone Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 27,455 Fayetteville TN Via Selma	Originally Posted by doekiller If everything he posted is the truth and is the only evidence presented, they need to appeal to the Alabama court of criminal appeals. I have personally never seen a Judge convict someone when there has been no evidence of a crime presented. If the facts are really what you say, that is not even circumstantial evidence of a crime. A warrant should not have even been issued, thus the number of people doubting that they are getting the whole story. When you have a criminal defense lawyer (not surprisingly) saying there wasn't enough evidence, but then it is backed up by a retired GW and a retired police executive, it speaks strongly that there was not enough evidence from the information we were given. Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: jawbone] #924984 04/06/14 04:18 AM 04/06/14 04:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	Originally Posted by jawbone Originally Posted by doekiller If everything he posted is the truth and is the only evidence presented, they need to appeal to the Alabama court of criminal appeals. I have personally never seen a Judge convict someone when there has been no evidence of a crime presented. If the facts are really what you say, that is not even circumstantial evidence of a crime. A warrant should not have even been issued, thus the number of people doubting that they are getting the whole story. When you have a criminal defense lawyer (not surprisingly) saying there wasn't enough evidence, but then it is backed up by a retired GW and a retired police executive, it speaks strongly that there was not enough evidence from the information we were given. X2

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #925950 04/07/14 01:10 AM 04/07/14 01:10 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	We are appealing to the Apellate Court .... I have placed a call to the court reporter to get a copy of the transcripts. I know it sounds hard to believe .... I can't believe it.... But it is on record that the Retired Game Warden clearly states that he did not see them shoot only heard it. When asked it he could identify who was driving, who was riding in passenger seat etc... He could not because e could not see into the truck. He said based on his 25 years as a game warden he knew what a high powered rifle sounded like.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: jawbone] #925953 04/07/14 01:17 AM 04/07/14 01:17 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	I agree that something is terribly out of sync.... With the justice system in this County. I thought you were innocent until proven guilty. No one saw them shoot, no shell casings found by the retired GW at the site, no shell casings found in the truck when the deputies searched it, no light, no dead animal... If these boys would have shot an AR 15 from the cab of a truck they would not be able to hear for quite a while. Keep in mind the retired GW followed them and accused them after he claimed he heard the shot. From the stop sign to where he blocked them in at the hunting camp was only about 2 miles.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #925958 04/07/14 01:25 AM 04/07/14 01:25 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	In the first trial in District Court- when the judge rendered his verdict he said " retired GW is a friend of mine and has given 25 years of good service and I value his opinion...GUILTY.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: doekiller] #925961 04/07/14 01:31 AM 04/07/14 01:31 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	Charge- hunting from Vehicle... $1209.00 Charge-hunting -public Road.....$1209.00 Charge-hunting -after dark.........$2209.00 None of the 3 have ever been in trouble before.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: Skinny] #925966 04/07/14 01:40 AM 04/07/14 01:40 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	I would think the same thing if I were you too.... But what I have said is the truth. Trust me, we would not have spent as much money as we have on legal fees etc... If it wasn't the truth. Would have just paid the fines and went about our way. One of these kids wants to be a GW! Everyone should be concerned... This was 3 boys driving down a paved public road stopped at a stop sign waiting to turn left.... Not in camo, not out side of the vehicle, no spotlights or flashlights in the truck...this could have been anyone...

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: junglemedic] #925967 04/07/14 01:42 AM 04/07/14 01:42 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	It was 7:00 at night ... There were not a lot of vehicles on the road....

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: timbercruiser] #925971 04/07/14 01:51 AM 04/07/14 01:51 AM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala J JWC OP spike
JWC OP spike J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 61 Ala	Originally Posted by timbercruiser I wonder what county this happened in? Lowndes

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #925977 04/07/14 02:02 AM 04/07/14 02:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	Do you have an attorney, if so why are you ordering the transcript?

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #925998 04/07/14 02:32 AM 04/07/14 02:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,669 gardendale, al M mrinfo 8 point
mrinfo 8 point M Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,669 gardendale, al	Keep us posted....and perhaps get a new attorney.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #926142 04/07/14 05:02 AM 04/07/14 05:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,528 South Al Brian_C 8 point
Brian_C 8 point Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,528 South Al	I believe that judge is a member of this site.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #926149 04/07/14 05:10 AM 04/07/14 05:10 AM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 5,000 north alabama shooters 12 point
shooters 12 point Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 5,000 north alabama	Originally Posted by JWC Charge- hunting from Vehicle... $1209.00 Charge-hunting -public Road.....$1209.00 Charge-hunting -after dark.........$2209.00 None of the 3 have ever been in trouble before. Is this each, or do you mean split 3 ways? As in hunting- after dark.... 2209 each or 2209 devided by 3. Last edited by shooters; 04/07/14 05:10 AM.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: shooters] #926151 04/07/14 05:11 AM 04/07/14 05:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	Originally Posted by shooters Originally Posted by JWC Charge- hunting from Vehicle... $1209.00 Charge-hunting -public Road.....$1209.00 Charge-hunting -after dark.........$2209.00 None of the 3 have ever been in trouble before. Is this each, or do you mean split 3 ways? As in hunting- after dark.... 2209 each or 2209 devided by 3. Those fines are more than allowed by law.

Re: Anybody have a similar experience ?? [Re: JWC] #926152 04/07/14 05:14 AM 04/07/14 05:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house doekiller Freak of Nature
doekiller Freak of Nature Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 33,437 Your mom’s house	Judge McFerrin or Judge Bozeman?

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