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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 10:28 AM
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bamaeyedoc
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All of them or 100% if you prefer. If they gobble and have at least an 8 inch beard, I will do my best to eliminate their existence. See the post that YEKRUT posted about killing 35 birds off a 1200 acre tract year after year. That is like the Little Bighorn of turkey hunting but evidently it had minimal to no effect on the population over time. If the habitat is there, they will return and I have no problem making room for the new residents. And then killing them too. Dr. B
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AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 11:10 AM
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Depending on the size of the property, I may not take but one or two birds. There may be more birds there, but I won't kill them.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 11:13 AM
04/08/14 11:13 AM
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n2deer
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Kill all you can. I don't think a hunter can harm a population. Some years you will have lots some not so much. I honestly believe their are 2 to 3 times as many birds as you hear. They don't all gobble every day and there are always birds you don't know about as well as those birds that are moving to look for hens. Plus those birds that are moving across miles that gobbler talks about.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 11:24 AM
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Totally agree with n2deer
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 11:37 AM
04/08/14 11:37 AM
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my brother and a couple three friends killed every gobbling bird on a fairly small(200acre) tract over the course of the whole season. I tried to convince em that they were killing birds from ALL the adjoining property and it would affect next years hunting. To no avail, they never let up.
Next year they killed ONE bird, saw very little gobbler sign. Next year no gobblers killed by them. They gave the place up.
We hunters aren't the only predators out there killing birds, add a bad hatch and over killing will come back to haunt ya......
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 12:28 PM
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Interesting question but I tend to side with those that believe you can't kill too many. Certain properties may not have this luxury. My hunting club has 500 acres on one side of the highway and 2500 on the other side. The best turkey hunting seems to be on the 500 acre tract. I wouldn't hesitate to kill most of the gobblers I hear on that tract because it is surrounded by thousands of acres of equally good turkey habitat. More birds will find it before next season rolls around. Like eyedoc said, by killing more this year, you are making room for more new ones to move in. Turkeys have a much larger home range than deer do.
Having said that, the scenario that BhamFred described could be true too. If you have a 200 acre habitat surrounded by pastures that stay bushhogged and there is a shortage of quality nesting and poult rearing habitat, you could hurt yourself. If you are surrounded by good habitat (roosting trees, thick cover for raising poults, open areas for finding insects) then you likely can't hurt the population. It will replenish itself every 2 years anyhow.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 02:22 PM
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers...
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Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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04/08/14 02:30 PM
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... sounds like you have an awesome place
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once" BC
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: Bowhunter84]
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04/08/14 02:33 PM
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Tru-Talker
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... sounds like you have an awesome place It's mediocre at best... I have had better...
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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04/08/14 02:38 PM
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... Y'all need anymore members?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: N2TRKYS]
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04/08/14 02:44 PM
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... Y'all need anymore members? You about 6 months to short... We took one and losing one....He ain't being replaced... We have too many killers... Two limits already...and probably one more to come...
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: jlbuc10]
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04/08/14 02:50 PM
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If you have a property that the birds favor and has the correct habitat you can kill as many as you want. As much hell as gobbler catches here, I do believe birds, especially gobblers, range and rotate more than most people think.
On a place that I hunt there is a pond with a good sized island that has huge pines on it. It is almost a guarantee that there will be turkeys roosted there. I've hunted this place for about 5 years and probably killed 15 birds in the area. Every time you kill a bird there he is replaced within a day or two. Even on a day to day basis there may be 1 gobbler, 2 gobblers, or 10 jakes there but there will be a breeding turkey there with hens. On a place like this, I think it is one of the preferred roosting areas and I think there will be gobblers there until something ruins that habitat.
I do think that you could kill off birds on less desirable property but even that will only last for a short period of time as long as we can enjoy healthy turkey populations
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: N2TRKYS]
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04/08/14 03:03 PM
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... Y'all need anymore members? X2
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: Not how many but what percent?
[Re: YEKRUT]
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04/08/14 03:10 PM
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Tru-Talker
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I wish I knew the answer to that... We have killed 40 longbeards the past three years...13 in '11...13 in '12 and 14 in '13... We have killed 16 this year...Which is 56 over four years...Thats a lot of turkeys... Over these past few years...every October and November we continue to see 10..12..15 longbeards in groups... I have been wondering if we have been hurting the population.... But it doesn't seem so... I hope it continues to stay this good... But as long the numbers continue to show up in the fall...I see no need to cut back on the killers... Y'all need anymore members? X2 I think we are going to drop one this coming year...Too many killers... Guess I will have to start from the bottum up...
Last edited by Tru-Talker; 04/08/14 03:10 PM.
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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