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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #928916
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All of the posts in this thread are based on opinion. I have my opinion, you have yours. Im not here to be critical of anyone for their opinion or the way they feel. Sure its up for a discussion, that's why its posted here. But you're always going to have that one jack-leg that gets butt hurt because od someone else's opinion. Until some one provides some data it will all stay as opinion.


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #928925
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I agree with whoever said it should just be one a day....

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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: N2TRKYS] #928933
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
My original post was what was the biological reason for a Fall season?


And I have answered it several times starting with my first response to you, yet you keep asking it:

Originally Posted By: gobbler
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
What's the biological reason for having a Fall season?


Most of the southeast was fall hunting for most everything since the fall is "harvest time" and when there is usually an abundance of critters. killing fall turkeys is usually biologically sound, just like killing all species is biologically sound in the fall when there is an abundance of young of the year.


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #928942
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Preacher I agree with you to an extent. I have never taken over the limit. I may have on occasion taken over the daily limit but if I did it was by accident. But as ive already said, as long as 5 is the limit, that's my goal. But if 3 were the limit, then that would be my goal. Either way I have a goal.

As ive already said though, I can have just as much fun with them even after killing a limit.


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: teamduckdown] #928951
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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
All of the posts in this thread are based on opinion. I have my opinion, you have yours. Im not here to be critical of anyone for their opinion or the way they feel. Sure its up for a discussion, that's why its posted here. But you're always going to have that one jack-leg that gets butt hurt because od someone else's opinion. Until some one provides some data it will all stay as opinion.


You're too ugly to have a valid opinion


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: gobbler] #928992
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Originally Posted By: gobbler
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
My original post was what was the biological reason for a Fall season?


And I have answered it several times starting with my first response to you, yet you keep asking it:

Originally Posted By: gobbler
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
What's the biological reason for having a Fall season?


Most of the southeast was fall hunting for most everything since the fall is "harvest time" and when there is usually an abundance of critters. killing fall turkeys is usually biologically sound, just like killing all species is biologically sound in the fall when there is an abundance of young of the year.



No, you just state that that's the way it's been in the past. I don't see any biological reason for not hunting them in the Spring.


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929006
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Is there a turkey density map? Also what do y'all think the average turkey density lets say per square mile is on an average piece of bama ground.


Ask, and ye shall receive. FYI...These are population 'estimates'.


Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: truedouble] #929010
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
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5 isn't enough already since I could kill 20 a year if I wanted, but 3 what a joke of a comment


if you fail to kill a turkey for the next 10 years (using legal methods) you will know why. slap


If I go the next 10 years without killing a turkey then I myself am a failure to turkey hunting. I didn't say that I do kill 20 a year but I could, and with killin my limit every year the places I hunt still have an equivalent amount of birds year to year, I've killed 12 turkeys out of one field in the last 3 years and there "were" 4 more right back in there this year. If you work your land and prepare the places properly you won't have trouble keeping turkeys regardless of how many you kill. I mean watch the field of Dreams, If you build it they will come, but in my case its if you plant Chufa's they will come


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: HeartofDixie] #929019
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Originally Posted By: HeartofDixie
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Is there a turkey density map? Also what do y'all think the average turkey density lets say per square mile is on an average piece of bama ground.


Ask, and ye shall receive. FYI...These are population 'estimates'.



Great stuff! I wish there was a more recent survey!

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929028
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Great stuff! I wish there was a more recent survey!


Actually, the state is working on that now. Should be a large release of info come out next year and the next.

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929041
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I wonder how they got these estimates, if it was number of birds reported killed in each county or what, where'd you find that map?


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: Turkeymaster] #929054
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Originally Posted By: Turkeymaster
I wonder how they got these estimates, if it was number of birds reported killed in each county or what, where'd you find that map?


http://outdooralabama.com/hunting/game/turkey/Alabama%20Wild%20Turkey%20Book.pdf

State of AL produced the book. Map was included (page 57). There's a wealth of excellent info and knowledge in there.

I can't tell you how they came up with the estimates. You'll have to ask them and read the book.

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: N2TRKYS] #929055
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I don't see any biological reason for not hunting them in the Spring.


If that is your premise then we agree - there is NO biological reason for not hunting them in the spring. I like hunting them in the spring and I have NO problem with it. Wow... carry on tired


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929073
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They did a pretty good job on that map as far as Jackson county is concerned

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: HeartofDixie] #929075
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Originally Posted By: HeartofDixie
Originally Posted By: Turkeymaster
I wonder how they got these estimates, if it was number of birds reported killed in each county or what, where'd you find that map?


http://outdooralabama.com/hunting/game/turkey/Alabama%20Wild%20Turkey%20Book.pdf

State of AL produced the book. Map was included (page 57). There's a wealth of excellent info and knowledge in there.

I can't tell you how they came up with the estimates. You'll have to ask them and read the book.


Definitely estimates and not a survey. Turkeys are tough to get good numbers on as this map shows - much of it is purely a guess. Mississippi does as good a job of data collection as any State does and it is still a guess. Here is their annual pub with their methods. Alabama does not do anything like this.

http://www.mdwfp.com/media/217342/turkey_report_2014.pdf


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: gobbler] #929082
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Originally Posted By: gobbler
Alabama does not do anything like this.


Well we need to change that! The only two things Mississippi is allowed to do better than us in is: obesity and low test scores! mad


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929089
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It will always be estimates until they do a tagging system like everyone else.

People that hunt south Alabama ain't got a clue how lucky we/they are. The map is somewhat true, up in north central, north west Alabama most farms and what not do not have turkeys and never have.

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: jlbuc10] #929095
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I could not imagine owning or having rights to a place with 26 birds per square mile! From my past experience having 4 or 5 gobblers on a 600 acre tract is dang good. I just cannot fathom having a spot 640 acres with 10-20 longbeards on it,and more to spare on the surrounding land.

Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: AU_trout_bum] #929106
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Originally Posted By: AU_trout_bum
Originally Posted By: gobbler
Alabama does not do anything like this.


Well we need to change that! The only two things Mississippi is allowed to do better than us in is: obesity and low test scores! mad



Alabama has sent surveys out his year. I don't know if this is the first year or not. What exactly is MS doing better than AL in regard to turkey populations?


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Re: Not how many but what percent? [Re: gobbler] #929136
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Originally Posted By: gobbler
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I don't see any biological reason for not hunting them in the Spring.


If that is your premise then we agree - there is NO biological reason for not hunting them in the spring. I like hunting them in the spring and I have NO problem with it. Wow... carry on tired



Glad you changed your mind. thumbup


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