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Thank you for putting some actual sense in this topic. I sometimes think people on here do not wont to make it better.

Maybe people on this site will believe Fred, since he has made many post and has some credibility here.

So I guess you cant give a ticket to someone who hasn't written it down on their harvest record... That's cool then... I'll just not write my down anymore.. .

Yeea.. He cleared that up... Harvest record is useless....

Game check and Obama care ranks about the same.

Big ole mess

All this is kinda just like the gates at your property, it only keeps the honest ones out.

So Mr. Sarcastic, why are you against a real tagging system? Or do you not have a reason and just like to roll your eyes?

No laws, rules, and regulations catch everybody. And even though this country seems to be turning upside down, in the southeast there are still alot of good folks out there who do right. Game check or writing it down on your license is still voluntary right? Or doesn't it have to be done within 48 hours? I am not sure, but When I kill a gobbler or deer I immediately call it in just to make sure. I am one of those who try to do right, and who try to take care of our natural resources and follow the laws like I am supposed to.

What is so dang hard about putting a tag on a bird/deer and getting on the internet, a mobile app, or driving to a check station to report it? I actually enjoy doing this. I feel like I am doing my part. And if your greedy about wanting to kill 10-12 gobblers a year then do your thing. I am not trying to cast the first stone, but one day it could come back to haunt you.

Like I said earlier, I am not here to argue anything, I am just stating what I believe.

I like to roll my eyes...It's good exercise....

Just because I say it serves no purpose doesn't mean I'm against it....nor does it mean I'm for it....but to say it a better way of ticketing someone??? If that is the "real purpose"... Then the state needs to quit feeding us this bullchit about numbers of deer....numbers of turkeys... Tell us the truth ... Its about revenue.... Not management. .. Until they show otherwise....why would I be for it..

I don't blame them for wanting to make an extra dime, heck everyone does. The game wardens don't get paid hardly nothing anyways.

And it is about management. They have no freaking idea how many deer/turkeys there are in the state, and have no idea how many deer and turkeys we kill each year. Tennessee doesn't have exact numbers, because they have lawbreakers just like everyone, but they do have a better idea than we do.

I agree 100%... Not only them... But policeman and fireman as well... They don't get paid near what they deserve....




True they don't....If they count tags... All they know is how many dead deer and turkeys.... Still won't tell us what we have alive....

Never said I was against it... But do it for management reasons.... I'm all for a better deer herd and turkey population...I enjoy it to much..

I agree, will not tell us what we have alive, but will give a better idea.

it ain't about revenue, it's about enforcing an existing law.... lets stop enforcing the night hunting law an see where we go....

The "season limit" is a joke, always has been. Put some teeth into the reg or just do away with it....

the harvest record IS USELESS as an enforcement tool, the only folks that get caught without filling it out are folks that simply forgot to do it, violators, REAL violators just print off another one. So we're back to a GW having to catch Joe HUnter in the woods with six birds to write that season limit ticket. At about the third check Joe is going to be real hard to find and the GW ain't got a whole season, every day, to devote to just Joe.

and just what is your expertice in game law enforcement??????

I don't need any experience... I don't have to chase and catch em.... But I do have expertise in my opinion....
Your still gonna catch the ones who "forget" to put their tag on.... And your still gonna be chasing the law breakers who refuse to use them or wanna kill more than they're allowed.... You think a tag system will slow em down... Naah..

I do agree with you on stiffer penalties.... Jail time and felonies may curve "some" of the dumbazzes...but not all of them...

Question Fred? Did you politic for stiffer penalties or not? Also..do they listen to you guys or ask y'alls opinion on anything related to fines and penalties? I was wondering if they value y'alls opinion or just do what they see fit...

I don't recall ever "politicing" for stiffer fines and longer jail times, mainly because the state sets the fines and has no time to listen to field officers, hence the reason we have no turkey tagging system. IF they listened, then they would of heard EVERY SINGLE field office in the state opt for a tagging system. I feel it would help AND EVERY OFFICER IN THE STATE THAT I KNOW THINKS SO TOO. Several hundred years of on the actual job expertiece there.....

listen to us?? hail no, I'd bet that every idea from the field went into the circular file as soon as it hit Montgomery.

Lt Pugh and I went to Montgomery onct, met with Chief Halbrook. Lt Pugh asked if Montgomery would buy us hip waders to work duck hunting in. Halbrook responded "I would look pretty stupid wearing hip boots around the office"...meaning that if HE didn't need em WE didn't either. We bought em out of our own pockets, like we did a LOT of stuff.