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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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Bucks that are injured or sick will drop early, sometimes very early. I had a very thin buck near my place that dropped in January. I've seen northern bucks drop in Dec when sick or injured...saw a huge buck that got EHD and really never recovered lose prolly 40" off his new rack compared to the last year. He dropped in Dec, last rack was about like the one the year before(small).
critters ain't eating the antlers in a month er two......
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/21/14 08:17 AM
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critters ain't eating the antlers in a month er two...... This. They don't get 'em that quickly.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/21/14 08:43 AM
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We found 6. All from around March 6th thru March 16th, including a nice matching set.
That being said, I have a new lab that I'm training to shed hunt, so I've spent a lot more time looking this year than years past. Based on no food in the woods I was really expecting to find at least one in each field, but did not. Was a little surprised.
Along the same lines (possible effects of a harsh winer with little mass crop) I killed 3 turkeys this season at our farm. Their weights were 17, 15 and 15. I've killed over 30 turkeys at our farm over the past 15 years and prior to this year only one weighed 17 pounds and it was at the end of the season and run down. Based on this I can't help but be concerned about the health of the deer. Not saying they died, but just don't expect to see good horns this year (on average). Also did have one die of EHD next to us.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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If you KNOW of one EHD death, I'd bet ya'll had a LOT more than one dead from it....
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/21/14 11:10 AM
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I still wonder if we didn't have a Bluetongue/ EHD outbreak is some areas of the state? I think herd population is WAY down in some areas, down too much for liberal doe season to accout for it.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/21/14 03:05 PM
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yea... unfortunately, probably so. I know a few other guys on here have mentioned some on their land near us. Seems like it hit far North central to NE Jackson Co.
with that said, i had several cameras out all season and never got a pic of what appeared to be an unhealthy deer. So did my neighbor...same for him, but he's the one that killed the deer with EHD. Didn't see or hear of any in our part of the county, may have been a few but I heard no reports. I didn't notice any that looked unhealthy last Summer or Fall.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/21/14 06:20 PM
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I still wonder if we didn't have a Bluetongue/ EHD outbreak is some areas of the state? Possibly. Stuff happens every year. Some years are worse than others, and especially in years of low rainfall in summer.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/22/14 12:14 AM
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I still wonder if we didn't have a Bluetongue/ EHD outbreak is some areas of the state? Possibly. Stuff happens every year. Some years are worse than others, and especially in years of low rainfall in summer. Agree, but last year was one of the wettest Summers on record. Adds to the mystery.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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you most likely won't see or get pics of EHD infected deer. They feel like chitt and don't move at all. Two, four days and they are dead. Dead deer around water in Aug-Oct are more than likely EHD deaths. Dead bucks found later with very sharp beading on the antlers are also most likely EHD deaths, died in very late velvet stage...Aug/Sept.
Wet summers won't stop it, dry summers may make it worse but it has killed deer around me the last two years.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/23/14 12:22 AM
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Tbone, if you boys are really feeding a lot of protein food , not just a bag here and there, enough to make a difference in other words, you have healthier deer. Healthier deer hold antlers longer and in your case could be a benefit of your feeding program IMO.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/23/14 02:20 AM
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If they hold their antlers longer, does that mean a shorter growing period for them to put on new racks? (less development?)
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/23/14 02:24 AM
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No, because the antlers grow very slowly for the first month or two anyway. A healthy deer coming into antler growing season will grow better antlers than the same deer run down from winter/rut and dropping early will.
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Re: Strange shed hunting observations
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04/23/14 03:55 AM
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I've heard and read antler growing was like compounding interest on $, starts slow but the growth increases , more and more.
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