It was a typo.. should have been one of and auto correct put Oneonta in there.. (see below)


Originally Posted By: JWC
At this point he said that if the boys plead guilty we could appeal (which is not true- only for a lighter sentence) or we could go to trial but that oneonta the charges had 6 months in jail which she could impose.

Got that transcript yet? Really interested to see how this plays out...

NOPE... see below the email I received this afternoon from the court reporter:

From:
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:33 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Copy of Transcript



I'm sorry. We are in trials this week in another county. After payment is made, I will start on the transcript. I have several appeals I am working on that are coming due to the appeals court. It will be next month before I could get to it. But I will get you a price ASAP. Thanks for emailing.

So, what's the latest?

Not much right now . Still trying to get copies of the transcripts. We are now being told it will be the END of next month before we can get it.

I am not familiar with the court system and this may be the norm, but it just seems like a long time for transcripts that according to the court reporter should only take an hour or so to transcribe.- 50 pages.

We are looking at pursuing this several different ways, and Unfortunantely, not being able to get a transcript is limiting our options .

50 pages isn't much of a transcript. My opening statements last 50 pages or more often. 50 pages is less than 15 minutes talking. My last trial transcript was 2700 pages. My last hearing transcript I ordered that lasted 2 hours was close to 200 pages.

As for the time, court reporters have to transcribe when they are not working, so it can take a while to get a transcript, proof it and get it out.

Thanks for the information. I know it doesn't sound like much, we were oly in the court room about and 1 hour to 1 1/2 hours.... I know all the charges are misdemeanors...BUT... It's principal.

These were just 3 boys, going to do what they were asked to do... And just because a Retired GW SAID he heard a gun shot ..these 3 boys now have 3 charges on their record.

if they were convicted of y.o. you can have the dept of justice remove charges IF they show up on there record.

WTF?

that aint right?

No, that isn't correct. A state YO adjudication has nothing to do with the Department of Justice.

i know somebody that had y.o. went for ccl the charges showed up along wit some other stuff. nobody locally would help with the problem. somebody called somebody and within a few hours the charges were removed. Im pretty sure it was the justice dept.

Man, I am a criminal defense lawyer. I deal with this stuff everyday. The Department of Justice cannot remove a state court adjudication or conviction. The principal of dual sovereignty applies. The Federal Government can not remove a state conviction.

But, I am sure you know more than me. So, sure you are right.

Must have called in some NSA or CIA favors!

aint y.o. stuff supposed to be sealed. I know it aint completely removed from the record but isnt the term sealed appied to y.o. status

YO is only sealed from public view. It is still available to law enforcement and courts.

I figure goodmans YO was in the witness protection program and the FBI or CIA sent a spook to make him disappear.

and i wasnt trying to imply i knew more than you about it. And being a defense attorney dosnt make somebody all knowing either. As with anything it goes from one end of the spectrum to the other. Now im sure you are good at what you do. I was just saying. there was some stuff on this guys record that shouldnt have been there and it was removed by the doj

no WIT SEC for me. Dont roll like that