a couple years ago I shot the biggest rack and the biggest deer I have seen in my 50 years of hunting. It was at least 150 and was with a very big body. I layed the deer down, he got up and I blood trailed him for about 1 mile and lost him. I still dream about him. 130 plus deer are hard to find these days. The old ones only move at night except in the rut and they have become so smart its hard to shoot one. Im talking about wild deer not pen raised deer which in my opinion is discussing.