Help against Timber Company

Is there any way i can keep a timber company from cutting certain areas on my property in Alabama. Is there any way i can stop them or file some type of report to stop them from cutting. If anyone knows anything i can do to save my woods and TURKEYS please let me know. I did not sell the timber rights, the previous owner did. Is there any type of protected species I can say that I saw and file a report to at least postpone the cutting.

Need more info. Did you sell them a timber deed or what?

Not a !@@#$$ you can do unless you own the land!

FX4 i edited post.

You can probably negotiate to buy back some of the timber that you want to leave standing or just buy the timber deed from them.

Havent tried that yet, but i do know Weyerhaeuser is stingy.

So they own the timber and can do as they please unless you become the new owner of the timber.

So you bought this property knowing the previous owner sold the timber rights?

Woops

And ya wondered why the price was so reasonable. If the timber contract was disclosed by seller you are SOL and should have known what was coming. If it was not disclosed it’s time to talk to a RE attorney.

This statement here says a lot. 🙄

Tell them you have seen three Bigfoots there and you think it is a sacred breeding ground for them.

If you bought this property and a timber deed is in the hands of someone else I don't see much you are going to be able to do.

They will have to respect the SMZ area if applicable but from what I see they cut to the inch of those and don’t mind going over several feet. Sounds like you’re about to own a clear cut unless it was some kind of select cut deal. I’m sorry u gotta deal with this.

If they have a contract on the timber, they own the rights to the timber. Period. Your only real option is to buy the timber rights back from them. If the timber contract was not formally disclosed at the time of sale, get a RE attorney and see if he can get a stay put on it, but most likely, the judge will allow the timber company to harvest it anyway, due to the fact that they have a valid contract and legal ownership of the timber, that precedes your ownership of the property. If it was a failure to disclose, you'll just have a damages claim against the individual that sold the property to you. Also, I wouldnt play any games with endangered species claims etc. All the big timber companies have their own biologists and attorneys and if you make a fraudulent claim that halts their ability to pursue their contract and make money, you'll end up paying them damages, that could be far in excess of the value of the timber. I know if you tried to pull that crap with me, I'd hammer you over it and try to break you. The only other thing you can do is get a copy of the actual timber contract. Most have an expiration date by which the timber has to be removed from the property. Once that date hits, they lose their rights to harvest it. Lastly, when they come in to cut, and they will, unless you negotiate to buy them out, be sure to make them bond the roads. That way if the crew fails to fix them to your satisfaction, you at least have some recourse.

All this is pretty dang accurate.

I'm confused here. However , If you bought the property subject to the timber rights and it's in the deed you are SOL. If it's not in the deed or wasn't disclosed in writing to you , you may be in luck. If the previous owner didn't disclose the timber contract in any way to you , you MAY have a case for fraud against him . Might be time to Lawyer up.

Did the previous owner actually outright sell the timber rights for the life of the property? Or was there just a one time contract in place to do some type of cutting within a set period of time? If it's the latter - unless you just have some highly desirable timber - I would think that you could potentially talk to the timber buyer and ask if you could give him back the performance bond money and forget the contract. I'm sure they have plenty of other tracts to cut. Now if he's already done a contract with sub-contract cutters or something it may not be that easy. If the full timber rights got sold off, then I would think you are SOL w/out offering to buy them back and probably at a premium.

Now that you've documented on social media your willingness to lie in order to stop a corporation from legally making money, the best thing to do is drop it unless you want them owning the land and more.

This thread has amazing potential. Subscribed.

Absolutely.
Mods, move this to the general forum so we can get this thing rolling.

Ain’t there a Indian burial ground all through your timber?

Sell the land what-ch-want-fer-it.

Why not claim you saw an endangered species like the original post before you edited it? 🙄🤷🏿‍♂️

We’d love to hear the thought process on that one.

Where'd the fella go?

8 posts..good drama but most likely fake kinda guy

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Weyerhaeuser can cut any square inch of my lease - the key is - they own it 🤣🤣

Really like the timber guy and he is one of my neighbors - they been good to me

If this is where I think it is and WHO I think it is, it's time for . There's a Paul Harvey story just waiting

Well, we’re waiting.

Got several pieces of the puzzle that fit, just not enough to say for certain. If it’s the property I’m thinking of, the previous owner sold dirt & timber and retained hunting or sold just the timber rights. If I’m not mistaken the agreement doesn’t sunset.

I’m in for the reckoning . . .

The cutting timber doesn't bother me as much as how they "fix" the roads when they are done. There is just no reason to scrape all that up where water puddles on the road. Those curved drains don't help either.

This has potential…

Shh. Indians will take it away, turn it into a reservation, then build a casino.

This.

This oughta get good.

Thread pretty much over due to him making a rant and not giving the whole story. I think he knew the contract but doesn't want to pay the piper.

I wonder if he went and chained himself to a tree, like the idots do in California?

I want my 3 minutes back... He could at least have the decency to come back and tell us what happened or clarify what was/wasn t disclosed after starting a rant thread like that...

Yeah, I would have liked to hear the whole story too. Back in the early 90s an uncle of mine bought some land in a similar situation. A 3000 acre tract was divided into tracts of 100-300 acres and sold at auction, but all the timber was already sold and they had 2 years to get it out. He ended up with 500 acres of good land at under $400 an acre. He negotiated with the timber folks and bought back some pretty wide SMZs, but that turned out to be a bad investment as those trees were not able to stand up to the wind and a lot of them ended up down.

Still, he did the best he could and much of the second forest has been cut now.

The guy who bought the land next to him tried to thwart the timber company in everything they did. It was a constant battle, and he lost every round. They got their timber out and gave up on making him happy. I suspect the OP will end up like that guy.

If the buyer knows about the timber rights at closing and fights afterward it’s disingenuous behavior. A deal is a deal and we should strive to keep our end of a bargain.

I like this option the best.

Should probably chain himself to one of those trunks with the 3-leaf ferns all over it. I hear they keep the bugs away.