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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472836
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So who on here can say their ABC's backwards? laugh


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: NortonZ7] #1472839
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Originally Posted By: NortonZ7
Everyone here knows I'm a cop and I work a whole pile of DUIs. I actually used to work basically only DUIs. There ain't anything wrong with a guy wanting a good lawyer. I don't mind a bit when my folks get good ones. I've never lost a DUI case, but I also don't make BS DUI cases. Some cops have a severe lack of training in DUI and can make some less than par cases. Officers are also human and can make a mistake. So there's not a dang thing wrong with someone makin sure they get fair treatment.

Obviously I strongly disagree with driving drunk, and if Atoler was drunk then I think he should have to accept his punishment. And some DUI lawyers simple
Only look for a small technicality to hang the officer up on and they know their client was drunk and they just hope to win on a technicality, which there are tons of when it comes to DUIs.

There's a lot to go in to though. Why was he stopped? Did the officer administer SFST, and if so did he do it properly? Was Implied consent read? What was his answer? Was he stager testing administered and if so was it administered properly? Most folks don't even realize half of what goes in to a DUI. I ain't trying to start a fuss with anyone, but I also don't think Austin is wrong by asking for a good DUI lawyer. I'm actually good friends with most lawyers I go against in court. It ain't uncommon for me to eat lunch with one then go duke it out with him in court. We just keep it professional.


That is as it should be. A good lawyer will tell him if the officer did everything right and then tell him let's work the best deal we can with this prosecutor.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: jawbone] #1472843
10/05/15 05:12 PM
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I don't have any problem with folks getting a lawyer and working out a deal or whatever.

I have a problem with the head spacing that caused the issue of needing a DUI lawyer to begin with.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472849
10/05/15 05:16 PM
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If a man feels like he has been wrongly accused, by all means, fight it tooth and nail in court with the best lawyer he can get. But if he indeed, has committed said crime, then stand up, admit his guilt, and take his medicine. It doesn't get any simpler than that. It's part of the core values that we were all taught as kids. Well, that we should have been taught. These days, not everybody is.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472890
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What a lot of you don't realize is that a good lawyer will look at the case and advise the client according to the facts. My job is to know about the various programs available to get client help that he needs. To know that a defered prosecution program can help him change his behavior. Even if I don't gonto court with someone,I want him to know his rights and the different ways it could be handled. Just because someone wants a counselor with him does not mean he is trying to get out of anything.
I, or doekiller, or any one of the attorneys on here are glad to talk to anyone who wants advice, probably at no cost, and to help them make the decision on how to proceed that is best for that individual. Some times that is to plead guilty and take the knocks, sometimes it is to fight. But wouldn't you rather go to a Dr. If you think you have a heart attack than a truck mechanic? So why not ask an expert if you have a legal problem.
A lawyer is only a counselor. He can not force a client to do anything. But for a guy who has made a one time mistake, he might be able to help him keep his job, to understand the seriousness of his mistake, and to move on with his life.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472891
10/05/15 06:49 PM
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Well said judge.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472906
10/06/15 01:23 AM
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There's seems to be a case of selfrighteousassholeness going around in this thread. Best of luck man.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: jsh1904] #1472928
10/06/15 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: jsh1904
There's seems to be a case of selfrighteousassholeness going around in this thread. Best of luck man.



Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: 257wbymag] #1472934
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
So who on here can say their ABC's backwards? laugh


Not me


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472941
10/06/15 02:32 AM
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When i got my DUI i didnt have a lawyer. I got a fine about $1200 and dui/drug classes that cost about 400 and lost my liscense for 3months and probation until i paid my fine off which was about 90days. Usually no jail time on first offense unless there was another serious charge. Most misdemeanors dont carry jail time. If that helps.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: 257wbymag] #1472945
10/06/15 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
So who on here can say their ABC's backwards? laugh


Hell, I can't even say them without singing them.....


Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.

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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472950
10/06/15 02:55 AM
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Any person that goes to court on a criminal charge without a lawyer is making a mistake. The prosecutor is never going to make a decent plea offer to a pro se defendant and it would be very rare for one to get into any pretrial diversion program.

I have seen people end up with jail time on a charge that 99% of the time with a lawyer would have been probation.

You will never get the charges reduced to the proper charge rather than the overcharge that a lot of prosecutors go for originally if you don't have a lawyer.

To out it bluntly, they know they will win no matter how bad the case is with a pro se defendant, so they have no reason to be reasonable.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472951
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Getting a lawyer isn't a problem to me, the ones that have multiple arrest for DUI and are on a revolving door just because they have plenty of money or know the right people in the right places is. Getting off on a nit-picking technicality is BS.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1472952
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Dude listen to Doekiller. He is trying to help you.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1473011
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Doekiller and Judge sharpe have given some excellent advice. A DUI is a serious offense that could have lasting implications on your employment and insurance, not to mention your freedom. Depending on the circumstances, on a first DUI the Court is empowered to impose a fine of between $600 and $2100, sentence the offender to up to one year in jail, order the completion of court referral and potentially order ignition interlock if the offense meets certain conditions. A violation of implied consent (refusal to blow) or being over .15 BAC means additional penalties. The license suspension is 90 days minimum but could be up to one year. Each subsequent DUI carries much stiffer penalties with mandatory jail time and mandatory ignition interlock. The best advice is to hire a competent attorney who is familiar with the venue and who is skilled in handling DUI cases.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1473038
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since were on the subject I thought I'd throw some info out there that was told to me. #1, a breathalizer is not neccesary for a dui arrest, due to the fact that every law officer in the state can arrest for dui, but not every officer is certified to give breathalizer. #2, The dui law is kinda vague, and reads like this, A person may be charged with Driving Under the Influence (DUI) if the police officer(s) reasonably believe(s) that there is probable cause that the person was found to be in actual physical control of a motor vehicle while:

there is .08% or greater of alcohol in his blood,
under the influence of alcohol,
under the influence of a controlled substance,
under the combined influence of alcohol and a controlled substance, or
under the influence of any substance which impairs mental or physical faculties.

#3, in my opinion,if you are intoxicated,DO NOT perform the field sobriety test. Thats just one more piece of evidence to use against you

#4 if arrested, keep your mouth shut,and if you refuse the breathaizer at the station, which is the one that is used in court, you automatically lose your licenses for 180 days. as oppsed to the usual 90 days with first offense.

#5 If you are going to court ALWAYS carry a lawyer.
leo's and attorneys please correct any of the info if it is incorrect.


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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: goodman_hunter] #1473045
10/06/15 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
since were on the subject I thought I'd throw some info out there that was told to me. #1, a breathalizer is not neccesary for a dui arrest, due to the fact that every law officer in the state can arrest for dui, but not every officer is certified to give breathalizer. #2, The dui law is kinda vague, and reads like this, A person may be charged with Driving Under the Influence (DUI) if the police officer(s) reasonably believe(s) that there is probable cause that the person was found to be in actual physical control of a motor vehicle while:

there is .08% or greater of alcohol in his blood,
under the influence of alcohol,
under the influence of a controlled substance,
under the combined influence of alcohol and a controlled substance, or
under the influence of any substance which impairs mental or physical faculties.

#3, in my opinion,if you are intoxicated,DO NOT perform the field sobriety test. Thats just one more piece of evidence to use against you

#4 if arrested, keep your mouth shut,and if you refuse the breathaizer at the station, which is the one that is used in court, you automatically lose your licenses for 180 days. as oppsed to the usual 90 days with first offense.

#5 If you are going to court ALWAYS carry a lawyer.
leo's and attorneys please correct any of the info if it is incorrect.



That is pretty close. You lose your license under the new law for 90 on a conviction no matter what. If you refuse to blow you lose it for 90 immediately with an administrative suspension. So, if you refuse to blow, and you are convicted, it is 180 total. But not 180 days straight.

Also, under the new law, if you refuse to bLow or blow over a .15 and you are convicted, then you are required to have an ignition interlock system installed in your car to get your license back.

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Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1473048
10/06/15 04:36 AM
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DUI laws have changed drastically in the last few years. Advice about what happened to someone 3 or 4 years ago is not going to be the same now. Also, 2nd and subsequent DUIs now carry mandatory jail time.

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: judge sharpe] #1473061
10/06/15 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: judge sharpe
What a lot of you don't realize is that a good lawyer will look at the case and advise the client according to the facts. My job is to know about the various programs available to get client help that he needs. To know that a defered prosecution program can help him change his behavior. Even if I don't gonto court with someone,I want him to know his rights and the different ways it could be handled. Just because someone wants a counselor with him does not mean he is trying to get out of anything.
I, or doekiller, or any one of the attorneys on here are glad to talk to anyone who wants advice, probably at no cost, and to help them make the decision on how to proceed that is best for that individual. Some times that is to plead guilty and take the knocks, sometimes it is to fight. But wouldn't you rather go to a Dr. If you think you have a heart attack than a truck mechanic? So why not ask an expert if you have a legal problem.
A lawyer is only a counselor. He can not force a client to do anything. But for a guy who has made a one time mistake, he might be able to help him keep his job, to understand the seriousness of his mistake, and to move on with his life.





Dang it! There you go again! Youre just like your son!

You have to ruin everything by coming in and giving solid well thought out advise!

You dang lawyers are all the same...jeez. smile

Re: Dui lawyer in bham? [Re: Atoler] #1473068
10/06/15 04:57 AM
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There is one old cliche that I always believe:

"A person who defends himself in a court of law...has a fool for a client."

Just saying.

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