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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: doekiller]
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08/01/17 04:42 AM
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Georgia
Geeb
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I love how you everyone thinks only people doing what they like doing should have a right to use the lake. Personally, I hate wave runners. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. But, I understand those people have as much right to the lake as I do. ^^^^TRUTH^^^^ The water is open to everyone for everything, if you don't like the waves from the wakeboards banging your boat, raise it up in a boat house. I personally can't stand the 70 mile an hour fishermen who often times do not pay attention to where they are going while looking at the fish finder.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
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08/01/17 04:54 AM
08/01/17 04:54 AM
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Anniston, AL
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Let me unpack this a little deeper. When I say "skilled", I don't really mean a literal ability to physically grip the steering wheel and drive that boat, it's the numerous other peripheral aspects.
And look, I realize when there are 50 other ski/pontoons/cruisers/SeaDoos all in one big wide area of the lake, you just have to get in amongst them, and that's fine for the pleasure boat folks (again, you can ski in an area whether there are 2 other boats or 22 other boats). But when you're fishing along the bank, and right out behind you there's several skiers going round and round and round and round and round and round, and that little teenage jackass thinks he's cool doing dips on the SeaDoo (and insists on doing near you so you can see him and also think he's cool), and the party crew millennials come slowly BUMPIN' buy you on the wake boat making 3' roller waves, then 9 pontoons with grannys and grandpas idle by also making large waves, eventually you just throw your #$@#$! rod in the locker and go home. Fishing is over. Meanwhile, all the pleasure boat crew gets to enjoy the rest of their Saturday, completely unaware and unconcerned that they ruin it for the fishing guys. Is it their fault?...Should they stop?...well no, but that doesn't mean I can't bitch about it. It's frustrating. It is what it is, and it's legit.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2181472
08/01/17 05:00 AM
08/01/17 05:00 AM
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upatree
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Wakeboard boats are the DEVIL! They are the only boat that is designed to destroy property, designed specifically to erode the shoreline at a staggering pace. That is simply just not right I don't care what you say. Now as far as the rudeness goes, there is enough blame to go around to all involved.
Don't go looking for TROUBLE, it'll find you soon enough!
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: odocoileus]
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08/01/17 05:11 AM
08/01/17 05:11 AM
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Georgia
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You may think getting off the main channel is a good idea but its not. Calm sloughs are the best place to wakeboard be a douche FIFY So who are the privileged few who are allowed in these sacred calm sloughs?
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/01/17 05:30 AM
08/01/17 05:30 AM
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RBC, AL
Drake322
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Let me unpack this a little deeper. When I say "skilled", I don't really mean a literal ability to physically grip the steering wheel and drive that boat, it's the numerous other peripheral aspects.
And look, I realize when there are 50 other ski/pontoons/cruisers/SeaDoos all in one big wide area of the lake, you just have to get in amongst them, and that's fine for the pleasure boat folks (again, you can ski in an area whether there are 2 other boats or 22 other boats). But when you're fishing along the bank, and right out behind you there's several skiers going round and round and round and round and round and round, and that little teenage jackass thinks he's cool doing dips on the SeaDoo (and insists on doing near you so you can see him and also think he's cool), and the party crew millennials come slowly BUMPIN' buy you on the wake boat making 3' roller waves, then 9 pontoons with grannys and grandpas idle by also making large waves, eventually you just throw your #$@#$! rod in the locker and go home. Fishing is over. Meanwhile, all the pleasure boat crew gets to enjoy the rest of their Saturday, completely unaware and unconcerned that they ruin it for the fishing guys. Is it their fault?...Should they stop?...well no, but that doesn't mean I can't bitch about it. It's frustrating. It is what it is, and it's legit. BINGO! I fish during the week when I can. Here come young guy that uses my boat at a bouy to circle around. What do I do? Grab the biggest crank I got and sling it at them. Some get the message and some have no clue. Heck, I have a friend that just got a wakeboard boat. We were fishing in middle of river on a afternoon tx. She sees me and comes within 50 yards of me and says to her husband, "those at stumps where he is fishing goa little closer to his left to get in channel". Problem here is THERE WERE NO STUMPS ANYWHERE CLOSE, JUST RIVER CHANNEL". This type of behavior needs to change. Mandatory classes when you buy a boat for the river/lake you reside or whatever may need to be looked at.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: Drake322]
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08/01/17 05:49 AM
08/01/17 05:49 AM
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Right Behind You
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Mandatory classes when you buy a boat for the river/lake you reside or whatever may need to be looked at. And you lost me..... I'd love for every boater to see the lake they frequent with the water down. It'd scare the %&^* outa most of them. I'm on the water a lot. I see crazy stuff from the recreation crowd, but the crazy tournament guy is out there too.
"The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing... compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."
Joan Robinson
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: William]
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08/01/17 05:53 AM
08/01/17 05:53 AM
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RBC, AL
Drake322
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Mandatory classes when you buy a boat for the river/lake you reside or whatever may need to be looked at. And you lost me..... I'd love for every boater to see the lake they frequent with the water down. It'd scare the %&^* outa most of them. I'm on the water a lot. I see crazy stuff from the recreation crowd, but the crazy tournament guy is out there too. I have seen so many new boaters over the last 3 years here on Neely. No clue at where they are going, how to operate, be courteous, and so on. Also, weekend warriors that have the $75K Phoenix are not entitled to come by anyone on the back pad running 70 and put them and other boats in danger.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
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08/01/17 06:39 AM
08/01/17 06:39 AM
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Anniston, AL
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I can't say for 100% which boat drafts the least water: A bass boat, or a ski boat. Now I assume a ski boat can probably run in shallower water since they have an inboard. However, how shallow??
Most bass boats have large GPS electronics showing the chart for the lake you are on, with 1' contours and all sorts of warnings and guidance features. You can see the channel, shallow flats, humps, etc. On most lakes you can think you're out in the middle of the deepest part, it's a mile wide, but there's a dang hump right there that's only about 2' deep on top (or less!!!). The bass boat guys ALL know that and avoid it. It's crazy how it appears all the ski boats drive right over the top of that hump...with a skier in tow!! If they fell off their shorts wouldn't even get wet! I just turn my head. I guess that's one aspect I'm talking about when I say "skill" of driver. Even before I had a television screen GPS on my boat, I knew that hump was there and avoided it. But it's like the pleasure guys don't even understand the concept that there is a shallow danger there.
Last edited by ikillbux; 08/01/17 07:24 AM.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: Gotcha1]
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08/01/17 07:33 AM
08/01/17 07:33 AM
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Lee County
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Been on Martin since the WB's came out. Bet I haven't seen 10 people wake boarding. Mostly just cruisers knocking your boat up on the dock, music blaring (and I mean loud), boards in their racks, and coool dudes driving. ^^^This^^^ I've never seen anyone wake board and very rarely see anyone skiing anymore. Just a bunch of damn cruisers and a few tubers. That's on wake boats, ski boats and pontoon boats. It's definitely not the lake I grew up on.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2181651
08/01/17 08:47 AM
08/01/17 08:47 AM
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Anniston, AL
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I know it doesn't sound like it, but it's important to me that you know I'm not hating on pleasure boaters. That's your/their hobby just like bass fishing is mine, the lake belongs to all of us. That's not the debate, actually I don't guess there's a debate at all. Just a fisherman venting is all I am.
Drake hit on something above that I think we're missing... the sheer increase in numbers of people on the water today. There's a MASSIVE amount of boats of all kinds on the water today. This topic about certain kinds of boats is coming up more and more often, there's something to it. 20 years ago there weren't nearly as many folks with boats of any kind, today it seems like everybody has a boat. It's just too crowded. I have the same problem with hunting, and it's why I look at you like WTF when folks talk about "needing to get the next generation into hunting so we don't lose the sport."
Last edited by ikillbux; 08/01/17 08:54 AM.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: ikillbux]
#2181671
08/01/17 09:26 AM
08/01/17 09:26 AM
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RBC, AL
Drake322
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I know it doesn't sound like it, but it's important to me that you know I'm not hating on pleasure boaters. That's your/their hobby just like bass fishing is mine, the lake belongs to all of us. That's not the debate, actually I don't guess there's a debate at all. Just a fisherman venting is all I am.
Drake hit on something above that I think we're missing... the sheer increase in numbers of people on the water today. There's a MASSIVE amount of boats of all kinds on the water today. This topic about certain kinds of boats is coming up more and more often, there's something to it. 20 years ago there weren't nearly as many folks with boats of any kind, today it seems like everybody has a boat. It's just too crowded. I have the same problem with hunting, and it's why I look at you like WTF when folks talk about "needing to get the next generation into hunting so we don't lose the sport." I am also not hating on pleasure boaters either. Like I said, I fish during the week and on the pontoon on weekends. I will say this though, this influx of new/resurged/moved here from somewhere else boaters is insane. Just like 10-14 years ago, the onslaught of new duck hunter was just sickening. Sorry for the side bar.  I do SERIOUSLY believe before anyone leaves Buck's Island with a boat that they have to take a test on knowledge of their home river if it a pleasure boater. Again, not a hater. 
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2181683
08/01/17 09:43 AM
08/01/17 09:43 AM
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upatree
rulebreaker
My head is in my ass.
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AND, for some of you that are not out here EVERY week-end, you may have no idea what we are talking about.
Don't go looking for TROUBLE, it'll find you soon enough!
There are old, wise men and then there are just old fools. The sooner you learn this, the wiser you will be.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2181764
08/01/17 11:24 AM
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Shelby County
bloodtrail
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Aside from the huge destructive waves, very few people follow the rules of the water. It looks like pure chaos which makes it impossible for people to observe and learn how to drive their boat. If everyone followed navigational beacons, drove on their right side, overtook boats on the left, and didn't recklessly drive close to docks the water would be much more enjoyable. Following the channel around a right turn should not be a real game of chicken, but unfortunately you can bet a boat (usually a pontoon) will be looking at you face-to-face around every bend.
My advice to pleasure boaters is learn the contours of the lake your running, "stumps" aren't out there in random places, 3' ledges don't just sneak up on you. The shallow water in the backs of creeks and sloughs is where fisherman go to get away from pleasure craft, taking a wake boat that's designed to throw the biggest imaginable wave for the skiers enjoyment back there should get you beat with either a yekrut stick or a Bob Barker flip flop. The main lake is full of waves for you to enjoy.
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: Irishguy]
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08/01/17 01:06 PM
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Irvington, AL
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2. Harley pirate guy with not only the loud ass exhaust shouting "look at me!" but he also has to have the stereo speakers blaring out either rap or classic rock that he never grew tired of in high school... And all you're trying to do it find some peace and quiet. This IS how I find my peace and quiet! Rolling around on my Harley with loud pipes and music blaring is my getaway! LOL - and, yes, I just finished installing a 500w amp in it this past weekend too! LOL
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: GomerPyle]
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08/01/17 02:11 PM
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The sooner we have laws against damaging other people's health (hearing), the better.
I love my weekends in Tallahassee. 55 decibels gets you a 150 clam fine the first time no exceptions and it goes up really fast from there. The ghetto thugs have made the transition quite well.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: Drake322]
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08/01/17 02:21 PM
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I know it doesn't sound like it, but it's important to me that you know I'm not hating on pleasure boaters. That's your/their hobby just like bass fishing is mine, the lake belongs to all of us. That's not the debate, actually I don't guess there's a debate at all. Just a fisherman venting is all I am.
Drake hit on something above that I think we're missing... the sheer increase in numbers of people on the water today. There's a MASSIVE amount of boats of all kinds on the water today. This topic about certain kinds of boats is coming up more and more often, there's something to it. 20 years ago there weren't nearly as many folks with boats of any kind, today it seems like everybody has a boat. It's just too crowded. I have the same problem with hunting, and it's why I look at you like WTF when folks talk about "needing to get the next generation into hunting so we don't lose the sport." I am also not hating on pleasure boaters either. Like I said, I fish during the week and on the pontoon on weekends. I will say this though, this influx of new/resurged/moved here from somewhere else boaters is insane. Just like 10-14 years ago, the onslaught of new duck hunter was just sickening. Sorry for the side bar. I do SERIOUSLY believe before anyone leaves Buck's Island with a boat that they have to take a test on knowledge of their home river if it a pleasure boater. Again, not a hater. Just imagine the 80's y'all don't know what peace and quit is. From duck hunting to ski boats, they were almost non-existent.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Wakeboard Boats
[Re: sethjamtoe]
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08/02/17 04:49 AM
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Lickskillet, AL
Irishguy
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2. Harley pirate guy with not only the loud ass exhaust shouting "look at me!" but he also has to have the stereo speakers blaring out either rap or classic rock that he never grew tired of in high school... And all you're trying to do it find some peace and quiet. This IS how I find my peace and quiet! Rolling around on my Harley with loud pipes and music blaring is my getaway! LOL - and, yes, I just finished installing a 500w amp in it this past weekend too! LOL You are the reason I'm building my cabin on a dirt road.
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