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Re: Allison boats [Re: Ridge Life] #3443749
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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


Don't mean to derail your thread, but if they could make a bass boat that would run 83 with a 150 on it, why did they start putting a 250 on all of them?


Bc they started making them 22ft long and wide as a pick up bed with closets in the floor.


Yep. Allison finally put one in the Bassmaster circuit a few years ago. They only put a 200. Used it for advertising. With a 200, it would still outrun the competition and burn way less gas doing it.

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Seems odd that the 150 would have a four blade prop on it. I would have thought it would be faster with a three blade on a light hull. Why the nose cone?

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Originally Posted by klay
Originally Posted by Sandmtnslayer
Allisons would scream but dont know about the 83 with a one fify


I know, but I intend on finding out. 😁




Be careful. They will hook on you and you'll get wet. That boat will run 83 all day. Be careful letting off the throttle too fast.

I'd put it on Facebook for 21,500.00.

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I would really love to have this boat.. only at a pre-Covid price though. Really nice ride and I love a fast boat

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Originally Posted by Ridge Life
I would really love to have this boat.. only at a pre-Covid price though. Really nice ride and I love a fast boat


Alison's have and will always be high. That's why this will be my first one.

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Definitely post up the results.

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Back many years ago I had 17' Venture rated for 115. I put a 150 on it. Had to put 10 gallon jugs of water in the front hull but nothing ever passed me on the Big G


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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Seems odd that the 150 would have a four blade prop on it. I would have thought it would be faster with a three blade on a light hull. Why the nose cone?

The Nose cone with low water pick up allows you to run the motor much higher by keeping water psi to the motor. Running the motor higher makes more MPH & helps the boat handle much better.. 4 blade props also tend to handle better than a 3 blade.. This boat appears to be set up to fish

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Skintback and I were boat #1 at coffeeville landing right ablove the dam one morning. That triton would run 77 and Skintback had it pegged. The Allison and a Bullett were at least 15 boats back. They both caught us at Oppatuka in that long stretch and walked off.

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Originally Posted by hamma
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Seems odd that the 150 would have a four blade prop on it. I would have thought it would be faster with a three blade on a light hull. Why the nose cone?

The Nose cone with low water pick up allows you to run the motor much higher by keeping water psi to the motor. Running the motor higher makes more MPH & helps the boat handle much better.. 4 blade props also tend to handle better than a 3 blade.. This boat appears to be set up to fish

Yeah but that motor isn't set up high was my point.

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So I been reading some forums on this hull. I’m gonna say this boat will run in the mid to upper 70’s klay. I may be wrong have been a lot. But I think you can get it in the 80’s with your knowledge

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The cone makes me think I could be wrong though

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I've owned 5 different Allison boats, all either xb2003's or xb2002's. I've also driven a pile of xs2003's, a couple of ss2000's, a couple of xr2001's, and an xr2002. Loved them all, other than the ss2000's. Those things are a damn handful....fast, but extremely finicky.

I've owned 2 xb2003's. Last one was about 10 years ago. I prefer xb2002's as I don't fish, and they drive better....and faster.

That said, the xb03's will flat out haul the mail. They will also throw your ass in the river if you don't know what you're doing. As someone above said, don't do a throttle chop...when the nose drops, you may turn around in a hurry. Some get frustrated trying to learn to drive them, because they can be difficult to properly balance, and others never get comfortable enough with the trim button to give them what they need to settle down. Set up properly and with seat time, they are really easy to drive, though.

Fastest I ever got either of my xb03's was 101.4 (GPS clocked...don't believe ANY speed claim if it's not GPS), in ideal conditions...cool, low humidity day in the fall. Smoked a cylinder in that 260 that day, as I had my fuel set a smidge too low for the cool, dry conditions. It was fun while it lasted. grin

Now, if that's a 100% stock 150 efi, I have serious doubts that it will push that boat into the low 80's. It simply won't turn enough rpm's to get there. I think the rev limiter is set at either 5600 or 5800 rpm. It can be done, just not with a bone stock 150. I personally know a guy that had a 150 ProMax short shaft with a Brucato ECU (no limiter) that would run mid-80's REAL LIGHT.

The coned lower unit is pretty much a necessity with Allison boats...outside of maybe the XB21's, which I don't know a whole lot about. As someone correctly stated, to get them to "fly", you need to run with the motor high. Most run very well with the propshaft even with the pad. Some will run with the propshaft a little above the pad. Without the low water pickup, you'd run out of water and burn your engine up pretty quickly. That appears to be either a Tooter, Titus, or JC's cone job....all 3 do/did excellent work.

The 4 blade prop will make it slightly easier to handle, but it'll scrub a couple of mph off, too. The over/through hub prop is somewhat strange on an Allison (a small handful of folks run a Hydromotive O/T, but they're kinda rare), as most go with an over-hub prop. Through-hub exhaust props on Allisons are practically non-existent...most aren't built to surface, and will sling an ear.

Weight is the great equalizer with boats...especially fast boats. As with 99.9% of speed claims with supposedly "fast" boats, the heaviest thing you can throw in a boat is a GPS. Not very many will run quite as fast (or even close to) as claimed when a GPS goes in the boat.

Check the trailer well, as those factory BoatMate trailers are closed tube. If the boat has spent it's life away from salt water, it should be fine and BoatMate makes a very fine trailer....certainly one of the best looking trailers around. However, if the trailer has been around salt water, they have been known to rust from the inside out if a pinhole develops.

Value? Prices are crazy as hell on everything right now. I couldn't tell you what anything is worth in this day and time. All I can say is, start high...you can always come down in price.

My last one was an xb2002 with a Mercury 300 drag short shaft with a Titus extended-cone sportmaster. Best I ever got out of it was 108 GPS with a 28p Hoss Triton that was thin as paper...and I was turning about 8800rpm, and I was light with about 4-5 gallons of fuel. It probably had another mph in it, but I didn't have the stones to bump the trim one more time. That boat would absolutely run on a rail.

There has been more than one tall tale told in this thread thus far.

Any other specific questions...feel free to ask. I'll shoot you straight on Allisons. I know them very well.

A pal of mine is about to put his XB2002 up for sale. It's absolutely beautiful, and will scream. 105-106 all day long.





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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
I've owned 5 different Allison boats, all either xb2003's or xb2002's. I've also driven a pile of xs2003's, a couple of ss2000's, a couple of xr2001's, and an xr2002. Loved them all, other than the ss2000's. Those things are a damn handful....fast, but extremely finicky.

I've owned 2 xb2003's. Last one was about 10 years ago. I prefer xb2002's as I don't fish, and they drive better....and faster.

That said, the xb03's will flat out haul the mail. They will also throw your ass in the river if you don't know what you're doing. As someone above said, don't do a throttle chop...when the nose drops, you may turn around in a hurry. Some get frustrated trying to learn to drive them, because they can be difficult to properly balance, and others never get comfortable enough with the trim button to give them what they need to settle down. Set up properly and with seat time, they are really easy to drive, though.

Fastest I ever got either of my xb03's was 101.4 (GPS clocked...don't believe ANY speed claim if it's not GPS), in ideal conditions...cool, low humidity day in the fall. Smoked a cylinder in that 260 that day, as I had my fuel set a smidge too low for the cool, dry conditions. It was fun while it lasted. grin

Now, if that's a 100% stock 150 efi, I have serious doubts that it will push that boat into the low 80's. It simply won't turn enough rpm's to get there. I think the rev limiter is set at either 5600 or 5800 rpm. It can be done, just not with a bone stock 150. I personally know a guy that had a 150 ProMax short shaft with a Brucato ECU (no limiter) that would run mid-80's REAL LIGHT.

The coned lower unit is pretty much a necessity with Allison boats...outside of maybe the XB21's, which I don't know a whole lot about. As someone correctly stated, to get them to "fly", you need to run with the motor high. Most run very well with the propshaft even with the pad. Some will run with the propshaft a little above the pad. Without the low water pickup, you'd run out of water and burn your engine up pretty quickly. That appears to be either a Tooter, Titus, or JC's cone job....all 3 do/did excellent work.

The 4 blade prop will make it slightly easier to handle, but it'll scrub a couple of mph off, too. The over/through hub prop is somewhat strange on an Allison (a small handful of folks run a Hydromotive O/T, but they're kinda rare), as most go with an over-hub prop. Through-hub exhaust props on Allisons are practically non-existent...most aren't built to surface, and will sling an ear.

Weight is the great equalizer with boats...especially fast boats. As with 99.9% of speed claims with supposedly "fast" boats, the heaviest thing you can throw in a boat is a GPS. Not very many will run quite as fast (or even close to) as claimed when a GPS goes in the boat.

Check the trailer well, as those factory BoatMate trailers are closed tube. If the boat has spent it's life away from salt water, it should be fine and BoatMate makes a very fine trailer....certainly one of the best looking trailers around. However, if the trailer has been around salt water, they have been known to rust from the inside out if a pinhole develops.

Value? Prices are crazy as hell on everything right now. I couldn't tell you what anything is worth in this day and time. All I can say is, start high...you can always come down in price.

My last one was an xb2002 with a Mercury 300 drag short shaft with a Titus extended-cone sportmaster. Best I ever got out of it was 108 GPS with a 28p Hoss Triton that was thin as paper...and I was turning about 8800rpm, and I was light with about 4-5 gallons of fuel. It probably had another mph in it, but I didn't have the stones to bump the trim one more time. That boat would absolutely run on a rail.

There has been more than one tall tale told in this thread thus far.

Any other specific questions...feel free to ask. I'll shoot you straight on Allisons. I know them very well.

A pal of mine is about to put his XB2002 up for sale. It's absolutely beautiful, and will scream. 105-106 all day long.






Pm sent.

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Originally Posted by klay
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
I've owned 5 different Allison boats, all either xb2003's or xb2002's. I've also driven a pile of xs2003's, a couple of ss2000's, a couple of xr2001's, and an xr2002. Loved them all, other than the ss2000's. Those things are a damn handful....fast, but extremely finicky.

I've owned 2 xb2003's. Last one was about 10 years ago. I prefer xb2002's as I don't fish, and they drive better....and faster.

That said, the xb03's will flat out haul the mail. They will also throw your ass in the river if you don't know what you're doing. As someone above said, don't do a throttle chop...when the nose drops, you may turn around in a hurry. Some get frustrated trying to learn to drive them, because they can be difficult to properly balance, and others never get comfortable enough with the trim button to give them what they need to settle down. Set up properly and with seat time, they are really easy to drive, though.

Fastest I ever got either of my xb03's was 101.4 (GPS clocked...don't believe ANY speed claim if it's not GPS), in ideal conditions...cool, low humidity day in the fall. Smoked a cylinder in that 260 that day, as I had my fuel set a smidge too low for the cool, dry conditions. It was fun while it lasted. grin

Now, if that's a 100% stock 150 efi, I have serious doubts that it will push that boat into the low 80's. It simply won't turn enough rpm's to get there. I think the rev limiter is set at either 5600 or 5800 rpm. It can be done, just not with a bone stock 150. I personally know a guy that had a 150 ProMax short shaft with a Brucato ECU (no limiter) that would run mid-80's REAL LIGHT.

The coned lower unit is pretty much a necessity with Allison boats...outside of maybe the XB21's, which I don't know a whole lot about. As someone correctly stated, to get them to "fly", you need to run with the motor high. Most run very well with the propshaft even with the pad. Some will run with the propshaft a little above the pad. Without the low water pickup, you'd run out of water and burn your engine up pretty quickly. That appears to be either a Tooter, Titus, or JC's cone job....all 3 do/did excellent work.

The 4 blade prop will make it slightly easier to handle, but it'll scrub a couple of mph off, too. The over/through hub prop is somewhat strange on an Allison (a small handful of folks run a Hydromotive O/T, but they're kinda rare), as most go with an over-hub prop. Through-hub exhaust props on Allisons are practically non-existent...most aren't built to surface, and will sling an ear.

Weight is the great equalizer with boats...especially fast boats. As with 99.9% of speed claims with supposedly "fast" boats, the heaviest thing you can throw in a boat is a GPS. Not very many will run quite as fast (or even close to) as claimed when a GPS goes in the boat.

Check the trailer well, as those factory BoatMate trailers are closed tube. If the boat has spent it's life away from salt water, it should be fine and BoatMate makes a very fine trailer....certainly one of the best looking trailers around. However, if the trailer has been around salt water, they have been known to rust from the inside out if a pinhole develops.

Value? Prices are crazy as hell on everything right now. I couldn't tell you what anything is worth in this day and time. All I can say is, start high...you can always come down in price.

My last one was an xb2002 with a Mercury 300 drag short shaft with a Titus extended-cone sportmaster. Best I ever got out of it was 108 GPS with a 28p Hoss Triton that was thin as paper...and I was turning about 8800rpm, and I was light with about 4-5 gallons of fuel. It probably had another mph in it, but I didn't have the stones to bump the trim one more time. That boat would absolutely run on a rail.

There has been more than one tall tale told in this thread thus far.

Any other specific questions...feel free to ask. I'll shoot you straight on Allisons. I know them very well.

A pal of mine is about to put his XB2002 up for sale. It's absolutely beautiful, and will scream. 105-106 all day long.






Pm sent.

Excellent info above. A GPS does make actual speed easy to determine. We didn't have that luxury, so we used a calculation based on rpm, gear ratio, pitch, and slip to determine true speed. I broke many a heart with that simple calculation. For example, if that 150 is turning 5800, 26 pitch, 2 to 1 gear ratio and only 10% slip (unlikley), then the speed would be about 65. If 1.87 gears, about 69. I'll be looking forward to the numbers you come up with. Have fun playing! I miss the days I had testing and setting up boats.

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Who needs to go so fast to catch a fish 🤔


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Originally Posted by top cat
Who needs to go so fast to catch a fish 🤔

Back in my day, multible teams might know about the same fish. First boat there got to fish them, because the other people would not come in on them. Sadly, it's not like that today.

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Originally Posted by top cat
Who needs to go so fast to catch a fish 🤔


I'll answer this question the same way I once answered a co-worker of mine who thought he was going to be funny in a big group of people when he asked "how many fish you think you can catch running 100mph?" I simply replied, "at least as many as you can running 50mph."


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