No to the simulation.
And much of quantum physics and the double slit is still very debatable because the change happens when the factors change from a wave probability formula to the reality formula. Behavior didn't change because of observation... behavioral measurement changed and the sample changed. Horrible explanation on my part but it's pretty heady stuff. Remember these are mostly scientists who are all too eager to discredit God as Creator. So take it all with some salt...perhaps a whole skaker.

Is it like the butterfly effect theory?

The bible does not say that. The bible says the blood of Jesus Christ is the only way any human will ever see heaven. No human will ever live a good enough life or follow enough rules to get into heaven. Sin is the problem. 100% of us were born sinners. The blood of Christ is the only thing that can pay for that sin. No human has the wherewithall to pay for one sin, not one, we are not good enough. Jesus gave his life as the atonement for our sins, every sin. God accepted this and through his blood and by the drawing power of God through the Holy spirit, a human must accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior if he wants to see heaven. The bible is very plain about this and almost every denomination of christian religion agrees about this one thing. Nothing anyhuman being will ever do will ever make him worthy of heaven. Its all about Jesus. And that has nothing to do with anyones opinion, our opinions dont matter.

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Yes, Jesus fulfilled those "laws", so that we do not have to for salvation. Thank you Lord!

Not the motorcycle riding but I’m sure there was some bourbon and a stogie involved and I have my doubts it that stogie was tobacco. Just saying.

Oops I got it wrong… it was a vodka, martini or two or three. Per Irish’s post about the remnants of the day.

When quantum mechanics physics theory was first developed there were basically wave theory and particle theory. Grouping electrons in an enclosed system and pushing them in waves allowed the waves to go through the 2 slits simultaneously. Further study wanted to see what the sub atomic particles would do without the wave, so when observed the electrons, this time not in a wave, went through either one slit or the other. This was in the 19th century and up to 1925 by a scientist named Shrodinger....Basically he developed quantum mechanics. Physicists couldn't explain why particles acted differently. Lots of theories. Copenhagen Interpretation was a group that opined a theory that the observation impacted the non wave particles so there's some parallel things happening...which then led others to theorize about simulation and parallel universe and other nonsense. Schrodinger disputed these new theories. Einstein refuted them too.

All that is just a surface scratch based on my reading...zero original thought of my own. Quantum physics far over my head. But common sense tells me not to put stock into psycho babble weird theories where there's been zero consensus for nearly 100 years.

Butterfly effect is very interesting. Because it's possible to mentally see how even small events can redirect other events and possibly linked to results or consequences. If my wife wouldn't have eaten a scallop in 1998 she probably wouldn't have miscarried our first child....how would that have impacted our family. With three boys, would we have fostered k8ds and ultimately adopted Jacob? Or a slight delay avoided a fatal wreck...or caused one? It can get deep.

For me, God is sovereign. He created, designed and upholds everything. I'm going to attempt to just focus on life application of the Gospel message...all I can do. Rest will work out however it's supposed to work out.

If you are trying to win me over to your way of thinking you are taking an interesting approach my being snarky...

Are you saying that once we are saved we can act, say and do anything we want to and we are still good to go? I don't think that way...

All of us are offered the opportunity of salvation through the Grace of God through Jesus Christ.

I am saved through Christ, however, I didn't just stop there, I still am constantly striving to live the life that I believe God would have me live. So I am constantly working on improving myself by accepting the things I cannot change and focusing instead on the the things I can control. And the only thing I can control is the way that I react to the things I cannot control.

When I think of my purpose here I often think of this verse from Paul:

"Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize." 1 Corinthians 9:26-27 New International Version (NIV)

I believe that Paul was constantly working on self improvement by controlling the only things he could control even though he was most certainly saved through grace through Christ.

I apologize for being snarky Irish, I should have worded that differently for sure.

I believe everything that you just typed for the most part. I believe that if you have been truly saved that you will not WANT to continue to act, say, and do whatever you want. But not doing those things is not what gets us into heaven. When God judges us, he will either see a sinner, or the blood of Jesus. There is no in between. There is no “you did a good job of self improvement so you get to spend eternity with Me”. And I think you believe that too. Also I think that it is important to understand that Paul was into self improvement. He was into letting the Holy Spirit fill you and improve you. We cannot improve ourself to the point that God will approve.

Jesus described it best with the Mary and Martha situation. One was busy trying to do good things, the other was sitting at the feet of Jesus. And Jesus said that the one sitting at His feet was doing what is correct. In other words, seek Jesus and He and the Holy Spirit will sanctify you.

I always enjoy your posts, your comments on topics, and your point of views. Once again I apologize for the snarkiness in my reply.

I agree with the highlighted statement above, which I believe is your main point. However just because we will never be perfect in God's eyes and we will always be sinners who have been forgiven through grace, doesn't mean we should stop trying to live more like the example Christ set for us because we are saved. (I think you agree with this too.)

I still believe we are in this "simulation" for a reason and that is to experience some kind of trial period, and that trial period has to include some type of self improvement, or what is the whole point. (I'm using logic here.)

I was at a lodge in Dahlonega, Ga. last year and I was having a cigar and a glass of wine with a Primitive Baptist preacher. (No kidding.) He was a great guy, and of course the conversation turned to religion. He, of course, was a firm believer in predestination. We had a very lively conversation, because I simply couldn't wrap my head around the principle that only certain people are picked to be saved and others are not, and all of it is predetermined before we are born. Just like I have trouble logically with the once saved always saved concept.

All of that seems to fly in the face of Free Will. Without true Free Will, then what is the point of our existence? If everyone's path is predetermined then there is no point in running the race. Just because you sign up for the Marines, doesn't mean you are a Marine for life, no you have to make it through the living hell that is Boot Camp and Parris Island.

In a similar way I believe that salvation is a conscious choice each individual makes and we are allowed to make it through Grace, and once we make the decision, the race is not over, we still have to run the race. If getting saved is all we had to do, then the only point of Church would be to get people saved, and if we were all predetermined to salvation, then there would be no point in Church at all.

So, yes, being saved through Grace in Jesus Christ is the goal, but never stop working on being a better person, because I believe it matters to God how we live our life.

Well said Irish. I don’t believe in predestination either for the same reason.

What I meant by my highlighted point was… we cannot improve ourselves to the point where God will say ok you deserve to be in heaven because of your self improvement. And that is kinda what I understood you to say in your original post “we have to prove ourselves worthy of continuing on to a better afterlife”. That can’t be the reason for self improvement or any kind of improvement because that is NOT the bar the decides whether you spend eternity in heaven or hell.

But I do think you are correct when you say we are here to further Gods kingdom by being an example to others. I believe that is what you are saying in a nutshell.

dumbest thread of all time

Let's not get carried away. This is Aldeer

Kinda like Horton hears a Who.

I agree. Works won't get you to heaven, but at the same time we still should show the fruits of our salvation. "Faith without works is dead."

James 2:17-26 KJV
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

With all this alien stuff going around and the Govt starting to admit more and more, could they be setting it up for the rapture of the believers? And couldn’t you consider God a alien? He definitely isn’t from this planet.

That's an interesting take, but how would the Government know when the Rapture would take place?

The Dial of Destiny.

My TV used to have one of those, but now it has a remote.