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Bullet question
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I’m getting too old to track and drag deer. I shoot a Tikka 270. This past season I shot a doe with a 150 grain Nosler Partition, I hit the deer two inches above the heart. The deer still ran 60 yards with very little blood. Luckily I was able to get to the deer with the sxs and get it loaded. I hunt in a rough hills and deep hollers. I hand load the Partitions and they are very accurate with 52 grains of H4350. I’m not concerned about meat damage. I want a bang flop or a dies with in sight that looks like a crime sign. Is they’re a better bullet than a Nosler Partition?!?
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I hunted with a 270 for the first time this past season. Worked up a good load with 110 ttsx over h4350 3290-3300 fps. Killed 3 with it. 2 dropped one ran 15 yd. Complete pass though on all 3. Minimal meat damage on the buck I shot in the shoulder. Doesn't bust em up as bad as the 30-06 with 165-180 ttsx/tsx.
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Re: Bullet question
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05/01/24 10:29 PM
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There are no guarantees with any bullet but a bullet that fragments in the boiler room usually gets quick results. The Sierra is a good bullet that usually gets quick results. Load it to around 3000 FPS and you should be happy.
BTW, I like Nosler Partitions. Always had great results with them and would say I got quicker kills with a 140 gr partition compared to a 139 gr Hornady in my 7x57.
Most important factor is bullet placement.
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Re: Bullet question
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I think you want a complete energy dump. I can’t imagine a better round than a SST. They are like putting a M80 in a deers chest and lighting a fuse! You don’t need bonded bullets for whitetail. Partitions are excellent bullets but I think a Nosler BT and a Hornady SST are your best options. Also, I am sure you know this but shoot them in the shoulder. That is the best place to deliver the most shock to the central nervous system and get the DRT results you want. Best of luck!
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Re: Bullet question
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There are no guarantees with any bullet but a bullet that fragments in the boiler room usually gets quick results. The Sierra is a good bullet that usually gets quick results. Load it to around 3000 FPS and you should be happy.
BTW, I like Nosler Partitions. Always had great results with them and would say I got quicker kills with a 140 gr partition compared to a 139 gr Hornady in my 7x57.
Most important factor is bullet placement. Do you think I’m to heavy shooting 150 grain Nosler Partition?? For the record, I’m not a fan of ballistic tip bullets.
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Re: Bullet question
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05/02/24 03:12 PM
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For what you want, try some 130 grain Sierra Tipped Matchkings.
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Dave loves Partitions. Don't need them for whitetail in Bama. Brother hit a 93 lb doe with a 154 Hornady out of his 7 mag that literally pushed the deer into a pine tree. If you want 2 holes Partitions are your bullet if you want one hole the Sst or Ttx will sizzle them up.
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Dave loves Partitions. Don't need them for whitetail in Bama. Brother hit a 93 lb doe with a 154 Hornady out of his 7 mag that literally pushed the deer into a pine tree. If you want 2 holes Partitions are your bullet if you want one hole the Sst or Ttx will sizzle them up. Dave, I want two holes. With an exit hole the size of your fist!!!
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05/03/24 06:44 AM
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Dave loves Partitions. Don't need them for whitetail in Bama. Brother hit a 93 lb doe with a 154 Hornady out of his 7 mag that literally pushed the deer into a pine tree. If you want 2 holes Partitions are your bullet if you want one hole the Sst or Ttx will sizzle them up. Dave, I want two holes. With an exit hole the size of your fist!!! I've seen this kind of performance...with ballistic tips.
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Re: Bullet question
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05/03/24 07:24 AM
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Dave loves Partitions. Don't need them for whitetail in Bama. Brother hit a 93 lb doe with a 154 Hornady out of his 7 mag that literally pushed the deer into a pine tree. If you want 2 holes Partitions are your bullet if you want one hole the Sst or Ttx will sizzle them up. Dave, I want two holes. With an exit hole the size of your fist!!! I've seen this kind of performance...with ballistic tips. Yep, NBTs for the win.
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Accubonds give best of both world performance. Bonded bullet for penetration and exit and up front performance similar to a ballistic tip
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Re: Bullet question
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Ballistic tips are a solid no for me. I lost a deer shooting a SST. Small entrance hole. Explode on inside. Deer runs 70 yards in a cutover with no blood. Buzzards found it a week later.
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Re: Bullet question
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Ballistic tips are a solid no for me. I lost a deer shooting a SST. Small entrance hole. Explode on inside. Deer runs 70 yards in a cutover with no blood. Buzzards found it a week later. All ballistic tips aren’t created the same. Even NBTs are different depending on caliber and weight. Just have to pick the best one for your application.
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Ballistic tips are a solid no for me. I lost a deer shooting a SST. Small entrance hole. Explode on inside. Deer runs 70 yards in a cutover with no blood. Buzzards found it a week later. All ballistic tips aren’t created the same. Even NBTs are different depending on caliber and weight. Just have to pick the best one for your application. So how can I possibly know which bullet to pick???
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05/03/24 09:45 AM
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Ballistic tips are a solid no for me. I lost a deer shooting a SST. Small entrance hole. Explode on inside. Deer runs 70 yards in a cutover with no blood. Buzzards found it a week later. All ballistic tips aren’t created the same. Even NBTs are different depending on caliber and weight. Just have to pick the best one for your application. So how can I possibly know which bullet to pick??? Research. I’m not saying that to be a dick. I didn’t learn the difference in some of the Nosler ballistic tips(NBT) until recently. I haven’t researched the 277 caliber bullets for which NBT is best. Sorry no help on the caliber. I looked more at the 7mm and 308 cal NBTs. However , I bet if you dropped to 130/140 grain bullets in Accubond or Partition, you’d be happy with the results. Should give you the two holes that you like(I prefer that as well) and more speed to potentially causing more internal damage.
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05/03/24 10:31 AM
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If you want DRT every time you gotta break bones and shock the CNS. Or get rid of that ghey 270 and get a real man's gun.
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If you want DRT every time you gotta break bones and shock the CNS. Or get rid of that ghey 270 and get a real man's gun. That’s right!!! If it ain’t kicking the snot out of you when you squeeze the trigger, you ain’t doing squat!! Trust me, a 35 Whelen with a 250gr soft point will definitely wake you up when you squeeze the trigger. Killer on both ends.
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If you want DRT every time you gotta break bones and shock the CNS. Or get rid of that ghey 270 and get a real man's gun. 😛 Gay is a 6.5. A 270 is a real man’s gun!!!
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If you shoot a deer and don't get an exit hole, they can bleed a river-inside the body cavity and leave without a trace. I used to belong to the 100% energy dump theory until I got tired of feeding coyotes and buzzards. They don't have to go far in our state to get in the thick stuff and I started using Accubonds and Partitions with a lot better recovery rate. Lets face it, some of them just aint gonna' give it up where they stand. I called Nosler after the BT's first came out and talked with one of their ballisticians and he said the early ones had a thinner jacket and that Nosler was going to "stout up" the jacket. They did and I had more success with them in my 270 but still didn't get exit holes 100% of the time. The problem with deer is they don't watch tv and have a habit if not turning broadside all the time. That is when you need a bullet that wont blow up and punch into the boiler room to get that B/P down to zero. MY 2 cents worth.
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Hammer Hunter bullets are the answer you seek. They are the love child of a Barnes and a ballistic tip. You get violent expansion AND an exit. Shoot a light for caliber bullet as fast as you can push it. The shock created by the faster bullet can’t be underestimated. The all copper bullet sheds individual petals and the shank holds together and exits. Sometimes you’ll have numerous exit holes where some petals and the shank exit. I shoot a 88gr in a 6mm at 3300 fps and it’s like they are struck by Thor’s hammer. Had numerous deer drop at the shot (behind shoulder shot) when the central nervous system was not hit. This bullet kills them faster than anything I’ve ever used and I’ve used most common calibers from a 300wsm down to a 223. They on sale for the next week too- https://hammerbullets.com/load-data/
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don't need Partitions on Alabama deer......unless the angle is acute or dead away and no time to wait for a better shot as the deer leaves.
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don't need Partitions on Alabama deer......unless the angle is acute or dead away and no time to wait for a better shot as the deer leaves. But the Partitions and Accubonds are so cheap, it’s a no brainer using them.
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A friend of mine swears by both partitions and accubonds. I just shake my head and continue ordering sierra and speer bullets.
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I had some Speer soft points delivered today for my daughters 243. I also have some Barnes TTSX on the way to try also.
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A friend of mine swears by both partitions and accubonds. I just shake my head and continue ordering sierra and speer bullets. I use Accubonds and Partitions also, and they're great deer bullets. But you don't need a bonded bullet to kill a pine goat. But I also use a wide assortment of bullets from other manufacturers like Barnes, Berger, Hornady and Sierra. Usually, my bullet choice is based on accuracy. If the Accubond shoots the best, and they often do, that's what I will use in that gun.
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Dave loves Partitions. Don't need them for whitetail in Bama. Brother hit a 93 lb doe with a 154 Hornady out of his 7 mag that literally pushed the deer into a pine tree. If you want 2 holes Partitions are your bullet if you want one hole the Sst or Ttx will sizzle them up. Dave, I want two holes. With an exit hole the size of your fist!!! Top Hole is Fort Scott Bottom is Browning BXS, Similar to Barnes
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Y’all finally talked me into ordering some accubonds to try in my old .270. We shall see
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I also ordered some Accubond’s in 140 grain. Nosler recommends IMR 4831 49.5 grains. Now I’m on the hunt for the powder.
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I will not load SSTs in anything I'm gonna deer hunt with they are very frangible and seem to explode on impact. I'm not a fan of the 277 130gr NBTs either. That's just me personally, a lot of people love them and have great success with them the .277 NBTs 150grs seem to hold together better and usually exit but I'm gonna pull all the ones I have loaded and reset with Accubonds. I'm pushing these at 3060fps using RL26. The NBT, Accubonds and the Partitions all hit the same POI so if I ever get a chance to go after Elk I'll swap to a Partition
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I will not load SSTs in anything I'm gonna deer hunt with they are very frangible and seem to explode on impact. I'm not a fan of the 277 130gr NBTs either. That's just me personally, a lot of people love them and have great success with them the .277 NBTs 150grs seem to hold together better and usually exit but I'm gonna pull all the ones I have loaded and reset with Accubonds. I'm pushing these at 3060fps using RL26. The NBT, Accubonds and the Partitions all hit the same POI so if I ever get a chance to go after Elk I'll swap to a Partition The Accubonds kill elk, too. No need to change to a Partition for elk, unless you just want to.
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